a Honda Reflex puzzles me...?

[Stig / Major Tom]

Joe brought his Reflex into town today.
(not an epic ride - he lives 4 blocks from the coffee shop)
Anyway - he wandered off to bother somebody - so I was looking at this Honda and wondering how you get to the engine.
That big center tunnel panel seems all of one piece - except on the L side, near the seat is a small panel.
The lower side seems to run well forward - and again, all of a piece.
The hips run down the sides  and around the back, with no seam.

 Maybe a lot of the work is done by removing the seat?
Oil changes I can understand - maybe that little L side panel is to the spark plug? - but a valve adjustment?!




Stig

BTW - this is the October day I met Joe - 5 years ago when we both rode are Red Hondas to town for coffee.



Two years later he asked why I painted it!

[john grinsel]

I had a new Reflex






... at 22,000 miles lady on phone hit me from behind at stop sign---bike total.

Engine same about as Helix (had 4 new ones) but as I recall TDC hard to reach/find.  Valve adjustment simple concentrics....but I forgot how I got to them. 

Was nice scooter but belt change much more difficult than Helix.

[rdhood]

Since there was never a good reply... to get to the center of the bike to work on it, you have to take off the front or back plastics. I'm in this forum because I just purchased a used DT300i, but I  just rehabbed a severely abused Reflex. On my Reflex, I bought a spare footboard and strategically cut it so that one side or the other can be removed without taking off any other plastics . Valve adjustment on the Reflex is a dream... requires no removal of plastics at all.

And to bring thus back around to Kymco, I just purchased a used leg shield to modify the DT300i.  I'm going to pen up  leg shields and foot area of my downtown, as well as make a seat change, that will add 4 inches of legroom to the bike..  This is a great scooter with a poorly designed footwell and seat!

[wbdvt]

And to bring thus back around to Kymco, I just purchased a used leg shield to modify the DT300i.  I'm going to pen up  leg shields and foot area of my downtown, as well as make a seat change, that will add 4 inches of legroom to the bike..  This is a great scooter with a poorly designed footwell and seat!

Be interested to see pics of your project as it evolves.  I have a DT200 and not fond of the seat and plan on some modifications this winter.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Since there was never a good reply... to get to the center of the bike to work on it, you have to take off the front or back plastics. I'm in this forum because I just purchased a used DT300i, but I  just rehabbed a severely abused Reflex. On my Reflex, I bought a spare footboard and strategically cut it so that one side or the other can be removed without taking off any other plastics . Valve adjustment on the Reflex is a dream... requires no removal of plastics at all.

And to bring thus back around to Kymco, I just purchased a used leg shield to modify the DT300i.  I'm going to pen up  leg shields and foot area of my downtown, as well as make a seat change, that will add 4 inches of legroom to the bike..  This is a great scooter with a poorly designed footwell and seat!

Have heard a lot of good things about the Reflex - shoot, any scooter that has easy valve adjustment procedure is a winner in my book!!
Honda lost the plot with the PCX.! Valve adjustments are so hard to do - owners go to great lengths to explain why their PCX doesn't need a valve check.
Would love to see pix of your Reflex!
All scooters are welcome here on this forum.
Stig

[KymcoRockr]

I had a new Reflex

... at 22,000 miles lady on phone hit me from behind at stop sign---bike total.

Engine same about as Helix ...

Not even close. Helix is a vertical motor, Reflex is horizontal. The Reflex was Honda's way of proving that putting two different weights of rollers in a variator is a bad idea. They were successful proving that and never did it again.

I'm still not sure why so many people on this forum obsess about valve adjustments.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Not even close. Helix is a vertical motor, Reflex is horizontal. The Reflex was Honda's way of proving that putting two different weights of rollers in a variator is a bad idea. They were successful proving that and never did it again.

I'm still not sure why so many people on this forum obsess about valve adjustments.

More fun than talking oil or octane.
Stig

[MJR]

 

[MJR]

Not even close. Helix is a vertical motor, Reflex is horizontal. The Reflex was Honda's way of proving that putting two different weights of rollers in a variator is a bad idea. They were successful proving that and never did it again.

I'm still not sure why so many people on this forum obsess about valve adjustments.

Upright but leaning back and just up from horizontal. Not just two different weights but different ramps for each set of weights in the variator also.

True if there is a problem it would be found on the first check.

[MJR]

More fun than talking oil or octane.

Maybe more fun talking but not as amusing as watching a discussion on engine oil.