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Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« on: June 30, 2019, 01:25:51 AM »
Just read in the newspaper that every time I ride my scooter I've been breaking the law. From day one 6 years ago I've been wearing ear plugs to protect my hearing.
Who knew it was against an Ohio law?
Columbus is considering changing the law.
Regardless, I'll be wearing earplugs tomorrow.
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« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 01:54:31 AM by Stig »
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Re: Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2019, 04:02:55 AM »
 I don't know if it against the law or not here in the Peoples Republic. I wear them when I ride. I can hear people talking, although it's muffled. They do not keep out sirens or car horns. I wear the foam plugs from HD or Walplace. I know there is a law regarding wearing ear buds. They say you can only wear one when driving. That makes sense since music can drown out everything else, at least the way I play it.
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Re: Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2019, 04:31:58 AM »
Why do you need to wear ear plugs when riding? I've been riding bikes for (many years), and with a helmet have never felt my ears were receiving too many decibels. I can understand a regulation against ear plugs (or especially ear buds while listening to music, radio, etc) as that would potentially distract one from being aware of one's surroundings. Just curious

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Re: Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2019, 04:42:49 PM »
Why do you need to wear ear plugs when riding? I've been riding bikes for (many years), and with a helmet have never felt my ears were receiving too many decibels. I can understand a regulation against ear plugs (or especially ear buds while listening to music, radio, etc) as that would potentially distract one from being aware of one's surroundings. Just curious
You ask a very good question and seem to hold a view shared by a great many riders .
Please do some reading on the subject in respected motorcycle articles.
Even with a helmet your ears are subjected to more noise than you might suspect - and more over-pressure  from the air.

I have worn simple foam ear plugs for decades at work....and if I forget to put them in when mounting my scooter, I don't get far before I wonder what all the distracting racket is?! Then I stop, pull over, remove my helmet and put in the plugs. Ear plugs increase my  situational awareness because it is now calmer inside my full face helmet!

I don't think one can convince another whom has set ideas about their drawbacks to try them.
But maybe try this one day at home, or while mowing the yard. Put in the ear plugs and wear them for an hour or two - discover what you can hear, and cannot hear. If you're impressed how much calmer the world is now, try wearing them the next time you ride in an uncongested area.

I am a real nut on riding safety - I've spent $ and hours insuring that I've done all I can do to be safe on the road. Ear plugs keep my hearing as safe as possible, too...while doing little or nothing to reduce my situational awareness - they may even help me focus more on safe riding. Ohio has finally listened to the experts and are about to make earplugs legal.

The evidence is pretty convincing that riding without ear plugs,  with or without a helmet, is costing you some hearing loss.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2019, 04:56:25 PM »
 My S&S modular helmet does not seal well  causing unbearable wind noise directly into my ears. I recently bought a Shoei full face helmet that is much quieter. I can hear the wind noise, but is not  infiltrating directly into my head. I have worked around loud compressors and machines most of my life. When I was younger, I rarely wore hearing protection. I almost always wear some form of hearing protection now when I am in a machine room. I still wear the foam plugs with the new helmet, as I believe they will lessen my chances of further hearing loss
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Re: Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2019, 09:02:01 PM »
Studies show that the average motor cycle helmet noise level is between 95 and 105 dB at 65mph due to wind noise. OSHA standards say that anything over 85 dB will cause permanent damage with long exposure. Anything over 35 mph can exceed the OSHA safety limit.

The argument is sometimes made that with earplugs you might not be able to hear horns sirens and such. My personal experience is that I still hear horns and sirens better than motorists riding around in noise isolating a steel cage.

I suppose a counter-argument could be made that once a rider goes deaf from the wind noise they won't have to worry about whether earplugs prevent you from hearing sirens and horns.  :-\ Personally I'll take the earplugs whether legal or not.

I have been using foam but am considering buying a set of custom musicians (high fidelity) plugs. Anyone have experience with those?  Recommendations?
« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 09:05:48 PM by nm_ryder »
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Re: Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2019, 05:06:50 PM »
on the very few occasions that I have taken off on my motorcycle without ear plugs....I also quickly wonder what all that obnoxious NOISE is?  So much more enjoyable with ear plugs than without.  Still fully capable of hearing what's around me...but without the wind and mechanical noise of the bike.
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Re: Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2019, 08:12:04 AM »

Please do some reading on the subject in respected motorcycle articles.


I've been reading "respected motorcycle articles" for the last 50 years and haven't seen anything about ear-plugs yet!  Can you tells us some factual hi-lites?

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Re: Stig - 6 years a law breaker!
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2019, 11:01:17 AM »
I've been reading "respected motorcycle articles" for the last 50 years and haven't seen anything about ear-plugs yet!  Can you tells us some factual hi-lites?
No, sorry.
You'll have to google 'em like I did.
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