HELP IN DESPERATE!!!!! - Instruments Not working Continued

[ptingib]

Im going to start to put the bike together as Ive tried everything with regards to the cables.   A replaycement of the instrument panel is the solution i think as everything else seems ok.  Thanks Crossbolts Ive tried with the wiring diagram and used its as much as I could but it was difficult as although its 90% naked its still very hard to physically follow the cables.

With regards to obtaining a new panel is that actually possible??? are they still being sold new by kymco???   second hand is a risk PLUS Im looking for a bike being broken up near enough for me to buy as i its likely to be damaged so would like to see that it works before purchase.

The issue about simply riding it is that the scooter does get inspected annually,  the next one i believe is is feb 2020,  so at least i have some time.   I guess it was a shot in the dark regarding an aftermarket panel!!!!!!

I did have a thought when I was in a huge supermarket we have in spain (like wallmart in the US)   is it possible to use a bicicle speedo and odometer instead so that I would have at least an ideal when the fuel will run out??

Can they take 70mph 80mph.   I was going to buy a wireless one but it mentioned that it was not to be used with an electric bike as the batteries/electric motor effects that wireless connection,  so was thinking of buying a wired one.   Does anyone know if this is has been done before.

BTW as I mentioned before during inspection the bike has to be 100% original or have certificated homologated parts to pass.   Immisions is getting tricky as well.   I have to do the car as well and they have started to plug in the car to their diagnistics computer which is unfortunate as I always erase the error codes whilst waiting for my turn !!!!! LOL   I think luckly my car is old enough for them not to bother, but immissions test is getting harder.  Luckly I have a petrol car not diesel,  so alot cleaner.

[CROSSBOLT]

Well, Kymco does have parts but checking with them is the only way to find if they have that somewhere. Most breakers in the US will guarantee the used part will work or you get another one. Do not know about Spain. Use a GPS for speed and distance. I have a Garmin etrex-20 that will show speed and trip distance. Have a RAM mount permanently attached to scooter. There are several salvage or breaker yards in the US and europe. Check their policies.

[ptingib]

Hi Ive started to put it back together again and will keep it going.  As I mentioned before it does have to go through technical inspection which it will not pass so that might be the end of the scooter.   I guess 10 years of life is very good for a cheap scoot.   Ive got GPS on my phone etc how to be honest id rather the smaller bicycle odometer option.  Ive got a garmin for the car but going 80mph through a city intersection it always seemed to be a fraction of a second too slow which means that turnings are missed.   Even with my adroid apps you have to take the maps and everything else with a pinch of salt plus the speedo does not change instantly on mine its every say 5 seconds.   We have many speed cameras and radar traps!!!!

will keep an eye out for breakers specialising in bikes in spain but people usually buy new all the time as they get it on credit (as no one here has any money) also the whole priciple of a scooter means that a person wants to be on 2 wheels without any hassle and not many riders will a full A licence bothers with a 500cc scooter.  they all get BMW GS 1200 which they ride for the summer and garage for the rest of the year 3000km a year on smooth highway,  a complete waste of €18000.    Style over substance!!!

[ptingib]

Hi Everyone has anyone know if an aftermarket speedometer/odometer Instrument panel has every been rewired for the Xciting 500???  is there a universal adapter available that takes the long thin input socket that splits it into 3 or 4 sections.   Ive seen ones in amazon that does everything needed and are digital and better than the original analogue dials.

[Scootmaster]

When I bought mine it had the same issue as yours. I had to replace the cluster.
You can find it here.

http://kymcopartsonline.com/catalog/search_diagram_detail.php?s_fk_manufacturers_id=21&s_fk_model_year_id=1&s_fk_scooter_model_id=34&s_parts_diagram_id=978

[MJR]

Seems a bit cheaper here. https://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oemparts/a/kym/5b50ee7587a866110c2e0eb3/speedometer

[Stig / Major Tom]

Seems a bit cheaper here. https://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oemparts/a/kym/5b50ee7587a866110c2e0eb3/speedometer

Thanks for the referral MJ - have added this dealer to our list (General Discussion, STICKY : "buy Kymco parts in USA here")

Stig

[ptingib]

Hi Everyone for your continued support and advice is so much appreciated.  Everyone thinks i should throw away the scooter as its old and  has spent its life outside so the plastics are not in great shape however I love this bike, I ride around all of spain on it and unlike a motorbike i want two hand brakes and don't want to do anything with my feet.   I tried a cruiser the other day and my four limbs were doing so much during traffic up hill that i almost ran out of legs to put on the ground and nearly ended up on my face.

Also coming off a maxi scooter to a cruiser you realise you cant see anything as you are so low.  with the kymco i can easily see over normal and sports cars.

I have a very urgent question if anyone can help me I may have an oportunity to buy an entire donor bike BUT it is a 250cc.  Apart from the color are the connections then same and is it likely to work.   I like this option as I get Panels new seat, spare parts etc and can keep the kymco going for a few years yet.

Id love another maxi scooter but they are so expensive new and the honda dcts are very overprices as wells as the yamaha.  I want more that 500cc plus 2 cylinders.  the kymco 550 second hand is still over €8000 over here.

Please of anyone knows is a 250cc panel has the same connections as a 500cc please do let me know also the 250cc is a mark I and i have the mark II 500.

many thanks again to everyone, European prices are alot higher than US prices and I dont thing the scooter is now worth anything except of course its worth alot to me

[sissymary]

Go to ebay, and type in xciting 500. Then check box (used parts), and then check box (world wide). I think you need a new cluster?

[ptingib]

hi everyone,   

i bought a 250 xcting donor bike and its taken me a long time to get the parts off and work on my 500cc.  its winter here and its cold and raining which is very unlike spain.  I have a little good news a a bit of bad news.  the second hand instrument panel is now in my 500cc and is reading temperature, fuel and lights correctly   HOWEVER it gets worse,  firstly no revs are displayed as it simply does not move nor does the speedometer which stays on zero.  BUT what really shocked me is that the scooter i bought the 250cc has 16000km on it my bike has 55000km and when its plugged in the new instrument panel shows 16,000km. 

Im very surprised and i assumed it would simply talk to the 500cc CPU and display what is stored on the 500cc but this does not seem to be that case.   does anyone have any thoughts on how i can get these three items working especially the speedometer and show the 550000 km as this will be needed to pass the vehicle inspections and thus keep it road worthing.

I genuinely thought that like others have suggested an easy swap of parts would be a quick and easy solution but this does not seem to be the case.

Please can anyone  help???

thanks in advance

[CROSSBOLT]

The panel has its own micro processor and takes no instuctions from the Engine Control Unit. You are stuck with the wrong mileage UNLESS some computer whizzard can "hack" it. The difference in wiring is probably why the speedo is inop. The plugs may be the same and fit but the pins are in different places. The pins are removable but you need a special tool to relese them. You can make a tool but the Banggood.com sells a bunch for about $3 US.

[ptingib]

i dont suppose you would happen to know which wire it is???  do i literally have to rip it out and plug it into the correct one???  what is the tool actually called I may have to look at amazon or the local DIY /electrical store.  If i get it working i need to do 40,000km in 11 months    if the km/miles done data is stored in the instrument panel than any replacement would be a waste of time as it would never show the correct information unless by a miracle it you buy one with exactly the same mileage/km.

[ptingib]

Hi again thanks for the information.  I actually have no idea what this tool looks like, is there any chance of providing a link or an image so that I have some sort of idea many many thanks

[CROSSBOLT]

Don't know which wire. Need wiring diagram for both models IN COLOR to do that. Terminal removal tool below..you are welcome!

[Stig / Major Tom]

Don't know which wire. Need wiring diagram for both models IN COLOR to do that. Terminal removal tool below..you are welcome!

Ordered a set of these for my brother-in-law. He's been limited to car keys while digging in his ears at the dinner table.
Thx Karl!
Stig