I agree less than ideal. I'm not sayin that what you should always do but it'll get it done if you dont have the right tools. When I first got my scooter, I snagged one of those toold Stig linked and it didn't fit. I dont believe there exists one for the LIKE, at least in 2012 it didnt. So I had to do the ole rope trick. I then upgraded to the piston stop when I saw some fibers come off the rope and get stuck between the piston and cylinder. Finally I just spent some money on an impact and its been eazy-peazy ever since.