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Cable lube technique
« on: March 30, 2020, 09:40:59 PM »
Applies to any sheathed cable, any brand, any control.

https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0182

But some places want 20 bucks for this and I am to stingy to even spring for ten bucks for this one. Don't even know if lube will fix the problem. So I gotta different approach to the same idea. Will post pictures soon. Sooner if it works! Har, har!
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 09:45:16 PM by CROSSBOLT »
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2020, 07:36:24 PM »
You mean taking a baggie and cutting the corner off, slipping it over the cable and wrapping a rubber band around several times to form a Funnel then fill the funnel with some type of cable lube?

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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2020, 10:22:50 PM »
No, not the baggie idea but some sticky, sealing tape (see pictures) to attempt to seal the skinny delivery tube and the adjustment joints. The delivery tube leaked a little but the adjusters not a drop. Left the tape on the adjusters.

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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2020, 11:45:09 PM »
That rear tire looks like it should do you until the Rapture....
You might use your down time to do some work with a toothbrush and some scooter cleaner and...…
No. Better idea.
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2020, 02:43:35 PM »
Toothbrush? Lawnchair better idea!
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2020, 02:51:28 PM »
What tire is that? Is the squarish profile a problem when cornering?
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2020, 03:01:11 PM »
What tire is that? Is the squarish profile a problem when cornering?
That is a car tire, Achilles model 122 steel belt radial 150-80R13. No problem in cornering because of sidewall flex. Running this car tire because I got extremely weary of changing rear tires every 3500 to 6000 miles. Got this off Amazon for about 37 bucks.
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2020, 03:24:07 PM »
Guessing the 1st pic is the throttle cable?  No guess what the 2nd pic is of.
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2020, 03:39:06 PM »
Thanks, I wore out the original Chen something tire with 8000 aggressive km and am almost through with a 35 dollar Kenda after only 5000km. Might look into this as I need a hard touring tire for mileage. I am not worried about traction to much as I usually ride at its limit whatever it be.
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2020, 05:38:57 PM »
I previously just used old latex hand gloves to make a funnel for forcing a lubricant down my motorcycle’s, as well down my current scooter’s cables. I just punched a tiny hole at the glove, slide it down 1 to 2 inches over the cable, and use a rubber band to strap the glove around the cable to prevent a leak.
I took some photos previously and will try to find it.
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2020, 05:45:48 PM »
Guessing the 1st pic is the throttle cable?  No guess what the 2nd pic is of.
Neither are throttle cables but the seat latch release cables on a Downtown 300i. What they are is less important than one of the techniques for cleaning and lubing. Scooterfan just posted a great  idea using a latex glove to force the solution through. Removing/replacing cables on a scooter is practically a retirement project just getting the body work off.
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2020, 02:49:27 AM »
Neither are throttle cables but the seat latch release cables on a Downtown 300i. What they are is less important than one of the techniques for cleaning and lubing. Scooterfan just posted a great  idea using a latex glove to force the solution through. Removing/replacing cables on a scooter is practically a retirement project just getting the body work off.

Unfortunately it looks like I didn’t take photos. If I remember correctly I used an ordinary small plastic bag when I did the scooter cables - instead of a latex glove. The plastic bag also just had a tiny hole, and I also use a rubber band around the bottom to prevent a leak. It worked just as well.

The speedo cable on my scooter has been lubricated this way as well.

When I service cables this way I always loosen the cables at the bottom, let it hang down, and put a bucket underneath.
I then force some paraffin down the cable, while I wiggle the cable up and down at the top.  I keep on forcing paraffin down the cable until clean paraffin start dripping from the bottom of the cable. Then I let the cable hang down for a while into the bucket until the paraffin stop dripping from the cable. Once the paraffin stop dripping, I start forcing oil or WD 40 down the cable. A bit time consuming - but wiggling the inner cable up and down helps to speed it up. If the cable still weep some fluid at the bottom after installation, I just clean with a rag until the weeping stops.

In my 11 year old scooter’s case I found the cables quite dirty a couple of months ago.
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2020, 03:16:20 PM »
I just run oil from oil can down opening of top of cable, even on the lined ones that are not supposed to need oil---- have not broken a cable in the past 40-50 years.....not since Brit bikes!

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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2020, 10:50:42 PM »
Gonna have to bump this one back up?

Seat latches working fine as frog's fur since April and yesterday first opening. The second attempt at opening was no-go. Key would turn only a small amount. Used the emergency entry trick of reaching up in the fairing to the backside of ignition switch and yanking the housing only to get a "snap!" and a lot of slack. Still no entry. Did my errands in the minivan.

Today, tackled the seat latch problem. I will bypass the frustrating efforts required except the seat became unlatched and open. The problem was RUSTY CABLES swelled in the housings preventing movement and snapping in two when the housings were pulled!

Have a shortened cable with a terminal lug for a handle to pull to gain access while I wait for a replacement....
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Re: Cable lube technique
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2021, 10:41:28 PM »
Whew! Been nearly a YEAR since the cable to the seat latch broke because of rust! Been gathering parts and materials to rebuild the cable assembly. Flanders supplied the fine stainless .050" cable, Amazon for the soldering flux and brass rods to shape into end fittings. The picture shows the smallest fittings made today:
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