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Introduction and things to come
« on: May 04, 2020, 03:03:46 AM »
Hello all,
I didnt see a introduction/new member spot on the forum so I figured i would post here.

About me:
I have two motorcycles: 94 cbr600  streetfighter/cafe racer, and a 02 vfr800 sport touring

Just purchased a 2018 Like 200i for my girlfriend. So she can get into biking.  So far shes liking it :)


So brings me back to why im here.

So every time I work on projects I try my best to document my work and post up what Ive learned.  So here is whats wrong with the bike that Ive found so far.

Speedometer gauge not working.
    Found that the cable had snapped and the speedo drive seams that it may have locked up.  it dosnt twist when the front wheel turns so I will have to replace both.

Missing center stand.
   Im a fan of centerstand and want to put it back on.   also i feel like the regular kick stand is quite tall and feel like it would be better if it was shorter.  not sure if any one feels the same or if any one has modified theirs.  (I have a welder so i might cut and weld the stock one.

Left mirror was broken. 
  the scooter was droped and busted the left hand mirror.  haven't decided if it wasnt to go to an after market mirror or try to find a stock one. 

Im sure there will be more things that I will fix but its a good start.


   


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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2020, 11:41:29 AM »
Welcome to the forum!  Looking forward to further posts on progress with "your" Like!
Regards & ride safe,
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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2020, 11:49:52 AM »
Yes, welcome! We even have a Like specialist on here! Your girl is obviously happy in the picture!
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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2020, 12:28:51 PM »
Welcome to you both!
What the heck?!...the previous owner removed the center stand!
Guy on ebay sells a lot of reclaimed LIKE  parts...except he often asks nearly new prices.
Yes, need to give that lady a left mirror! She needs to know what's happening in that quarter....but you know that. Ebay guy is selling them.
Might find the speedo bits there, too. Or give a shot at the dealers who do Kymco parts mail order. ...see top of General Discussion,  "Buy Kymco parts here "
 Again, welcome!
Been enjoying my LIKE200iLX since 2013.
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« Last Edit: May 04, 2020, 12:35:12 PM by Stig »
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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2020, 01:24:12 PM »
Stig, you'll need to tell the legend of the like seat someday. I'm curious.

To contribute to the topic originator, you will definitely want a center stand. I use it as a shop lift for removing wheels, replacing tires etc.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2020, 02:53:06 PM »
Stig, you'll need to tell the legend of the like seat someday. I'm curious.

To contribute to the topic originator, you will definitely want a center stand. I use it as a shop lift for removing wheels, replacing tires etc.
Here is a post from April, 2013:
"Haven't even purchased my Like200i yet, but just putting my 6'3" body on the scooter at the dealer showed me that I'd probably be riding back on that hump in the seat.  Crap, that doesn't feel good - esp, when compared to the nice Metropolitan and Vino seats sitting nearby. Well, I surely will be thinking about a seat modification and better tires (the only issues I've come across on this forum). "

Didn't take too long before I found a donor seat on ebay and set to work. I'll look for those old posts..
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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2020, 04:24:04 PM »
I see. I'm at my full height of 5' 8", but was 5' 6" when I started riding the agility and could barely reach the ground(most of my height is from the waist up).
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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2020, 06:11:18 PM »
Ok so I've done some thinking and this is what I'm thinking of doing in the next coming weeks.

General Maintenance
1.Oil change - 15-40 synthetic (I live in Los Angeles as the weather is warm year-round)  if I can find it if not I'll try and get as close to it as I can.  (it's got "4500" miles on it but the speedo broke so... who knows.)   
        On a side note did I read correctly this has no Oil filter?  Just a screen?  not sure if the different years had differences or not.

2. Change the spark plug
         It is running nicely as it is currently but I don't think any real maintenance has been done to this scooter so while I'm in there.
                 any recommendations?  I usually use ngk iridium but not sure about scooters.

3. Speedo cable and Drive (sourced but have to order)
       This will need some more investigation.  So I need to pull off the drive gear to see if I can diagnose if it's still good or not.  I'll take off the front wheel today and take a look.  I did source a used unit from "that eBay guy" lol so I'll order it if I need it

4. Center stand (sourced but have to order)
         also sourced from eBay.  So the story that the previous owner gave me was a mixture of Weight savings/ may have gotten bent during an off-road expedition lol.  To say this scooter hasn't had a hard life would be a lie.  He also told me that he drove the scooter from LA to Sandiego (approx 125 miles) on the high way.  So this bike has been threw some torture testing for sure :/. 

5.  Wash wax/ scratch removal
          So altho my picture looks like the scooter clean it's far from it.  There are a lot of scratches and imperfections that need to be addressed.  I will take a buffer to some of the bad spots with some compound to see if I can take out some of the bad ones. 

6. inspections
           Since I don't know to much about this bike I'm going to take some things apart and check out and inspect some things.   Air filter, trans belt, rollers, breaks, tire pressure, light check, other broken parts lol, any other common problems I should be on the lookout for?






Maybe's

I.  Adjust the valves
        not sure if I want to dig into this right now.  I prob should however have to source a valve cover gasket.

II. sliders/Rollers
         Seams like a common mod was to change out the rollers for the Dr. Pulley sliders.  seams like this would be good to do.  If I do I'll put on a new drive belt too (recommendations welcome)


more to come for sure but feel like I just wrote a novel lol so I won't bore you guys anymore.  Also hats off to Stig been reading up on some of your posts and going to try and follow your footsteps. 

now time to work on this thing :P
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2020, 07:03:13 PM »


Looks like there also is a recall on the gas line.  Not sure if the Dealer is open currently during this Coronavirus thing but will also need to do this.


Link to recall page
To check if this applies to you
https://kysvs.kymco.com/clmweb/clm/recall/kusrecall.aspx
info about recall
https://kymcousa.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/KYMCO-Like-200i-RECALL-puplic-announcement-letter-like-200.pdf
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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2020, 07:13:34 PM »
I wouldn't worry about the couple hundred highway miles. My Agility 125 has 13,000 miles which about 90% were highway at 68-72mph(11,000rpm downhill). They can take a beating.

Regarding the scratches, I would be careful buffing them as the plastic is usually white with a top color coat and most likely will need some paint if sanded much.

If the belt is an OEM and has under 5000 miles it should still have a lot of life left, also the OEM Bando belt is excellent quality. Should last for 10-12K at least.

Good luck with the work.


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Re: Introduction and things to come
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2020, 08:34:20 PM »
Hi and welcome to the group! The valve adjustment is very easy, here is a link to a good tutorial on YouTube by a Canadian Like owner...
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2020, 12:14:00 AM »
Your VIN part of the recall then?
Check line fitting at the gas tank. Some were not tightened sufficiently - Fix is to tighten sufficiently :)

That's a good valve check video - (no need to remove battery - just cover with a heavy cloth/towel)
>Best plug I've used in my 2013 LIKE200i is the NGK CR7-X Iridium (worked better for me than the equivalent Denso Iridium for some reason)
>First time belt cover off can be a bear! There are pry points - rear one is best tapped from muffler side though wheel spokes.
>Using 18/14 -14g Dr Pulley sliders - the 13g raised my cruise RPM's too much for my liking.
>While you're down there - empty the puke tube.
>Airfilters in MY area last forever - air tube pick-up end is in a very protected area in the bodywork apparently.
>Always used stock Kymco belt for the LIKE - perfect fit and long life.
>15/40 oil should be just great for Calif. SHELL Rotella T-6 15/40
>Swap out the gear oil.
>With a flash light, check for light amber brake fluid in the reservoir windows.
>LIKE is not a soft riding scooter - so use recommended PSI - esp in the front! But you can change the rear preloads for some help.
>Remove the oil screen thing once to dump whatever you find - after that maybe once a year at the most. Most of us never see much in there after the first service. Never overtighten this cap! Snug is good unless you go below 500m in the sea.
> Specs for plug and valve gap should be on sticker under the seat.
>Birth certificate is found under bodywork, above muffler - need a flashlight and lay on your back.
>Buff the clutch pads if you've a pull-away chatter - then be a little more assertive when moving off after that to keep chatter away. Mine is butter smooth.
> A 12Ah and a 14Ah YUASA battery will fit if you trim 5mm off of the hold-down posts on underside of battery cover. See YUASA charts to match your battery's width & length size.

>Starts should be nearly instantaneous using no throttle with a healthy battery.
>Just for the halibut I use only premium fuel (Shell nitro 93)
>Since you (she?) likely will not be riding in the wet - the stock tires are probably OK. I rain ride & swapped them out after 400 miles for City Grips.
>Valve adjustments are very easy, compared to many scooters. (Battery cover off, seat/bucket unit out, center panel popped off, viewing cap off right side of engine - rotate to proper position and FEEL slight movement in rockers. Best not to proceed if you don't feel slight movement in both!

www.cyclepedia.com sells a pretty good online manual (and or a book) These folks make the manuals for KymcoUSA.

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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2020, 02:40:09 AM »
Your VIN part of the recall then?
Check line fitting at the gas tank. Some were not tightened sufficiently - Fix is to tighten sufficiently :)

That's a good valve check video - (no need to remove battery - just cover with a heavy cloth/towel)
>Best plug I've used in my 2013 LIKE200i is the NGK CR7-X Iridium (worked better for me than the equivalent Denso Iridium for some reason)
>First time belt cover off can be a bear! There are pry points - rear one is best tapped from muffler side though wheel spokes.
>Using 18/14 -14g Dr Pulley sliders - the 13g raised my cruise RPM's too much for my liking.
>While you're down there - empty the puke tube.
>Airfilters in MY area last forever - air tube pick-up end is in a very protected area in the bodywork apparently.
>Always used stock Kymco belt for the LIKE - perfect fit and long life.
>15/40 oil should be just great for Calif. SHELL Rotella T-6 15/40
>Swap out the gear oil.
>With a flash light, check for light amber brake fluid in the reservoir windows.
>LIKE is not a soft riding scooter - so use recommended PSI - esp in the front! But you can change the rear preloads for some help.
>Remove the oil screen thing once to dump whatever you find - after that maybe once a year at the most. Most of us never see much in there after the first service. Never overtighten this cap! Snug is good unless you go below 500m in the sea.
> Specs for plug and valve gap should be on sticker under the seat.
>Birth certificate is found under bodywork, above muffler - need a flashlight and lay on your back.
>Buff the clutch pads if you've a pull-away chatter - then be a little more assertive when moving off after that to keep chatter away. Mine is butter smooth.
> A 12Ah and a 14Ah YUASA battery will fit if you trim 5mm off of the hold-down posts on underside of battery cover. See YUASA charts to match your battery's width & length size.

>Starts should be nearly instantaneous using no throttle with a healthy battery.
>Just for the halibut I use only premium fuel (Shell nitro 93)
>Since you (she?) likely will not be riding in the wet - the stock tires are probably OK. I rain ride & swapped them out after 400 miles for City Grips.
>Valve adjustments are very easy, compared to many scooters. (Battery cover off, seat/bucket unit out, center panel popped off, viewing cap off right side of engine - rotate to proper position and FEEL slight movement in rockers. Best not to proceed if you don't feel slight movement in both!

www.cyclepedia.com sells a pretty good online manual (and or a book) These folks make the manuals for KymcoUSA.

Stig


Yeah, my vin was part of the recall.  Ill go back and check the lines tomorrow I'm done for today lol.

What I managed today.

Oil change - Lucas 20w-50 synthetic motorcycle oil couldn't find  15w-40 and figured it's going to be ok. 

Spark plug change - ended up going with stock copper due to not know about your cr7x plug. (runs way better btw even though it was running great before.  although might have due to the oil being super black lol.

drained the puke tube.

changed the gear oil- used 80-90 due to not being able to find strait 90.  also guestimated the amount didn't have a syringe but prob will order one so I can put a measured amount.

the biggest job was to pull out the cigarette lighter man what a pita.  I ended up not having a .8 amp fuse nor not wanting to go back and do the job over so I rewired a normal blade fuse back to the battery box.  I used a temp 5 amp fuse until I go back to the parts store where ill grab a 1 amp if I can find one or order online.  In my opinion, this is one of the most common fuses to blow so might as well relocate it to a way easier location.

 cleaned the air filter.
        it will need one order one since it was not as clean as I would like.  Do they make a K&N or something for these?

Looked into lowering
    noticed some notches on the rear springs where it looks like it could possibly lower or release some preload to possibly lower the back.  My GF is 5ft 2" (I'm 5ft8") so it would be better to lower it down for her if possible.  also looked into taking part of the seat foam out but not much in the area where you actually put your butt sooo it's limited to take out the foam. 
Recommendations would be greatly appreciated for the vertically inclined   

Also was thinking about putting on a digital rpm gauge I hate not knowing lol.  found some cheapies for like 20 bucks.

didn't get a chance to pull the wheel off today but went ahead and ordered the cable and drive unit as a used package threw eBay so that should be in
also picked up a center stand as well.

Hey Stig, I believe you're a moderator of this forum any interest in doing a diy maintenance sticky? basically would be like a table of contents and adding links to already made posts (common to prob everyone's bookmarks) but just have the best of's in one place for everyone.  more than likely it will be a lot of your posts :P lol but would be very helpful for newbies like me although I try to search as much as possible.  Im sure the people of the forum would be willing to send over some of there links to help the process.


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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2020, 03:48:53 AM »
soooo I'm just doing a google doc's should be free to everyone and easy to maintain.  Stig, when you get a chance, send me your email and I'll give you access to edit it.  Everyone else will just have view-only.  I'll let stig take control of it for editing and allowing access to people to edit.  Please let me know if you cant get in. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BWlQqd-OhTXLmvT2UKbsHuicA3wNQKNoqw2YryDYnm0/edit?usp=sharing
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 02:08:14 PM »
liquidblackracing - welcome and good looking scooter!  It looks like you have most things covered in your post and the other replies..but I wanted to comment on a couple things.

gear oil - be careful to not overfill. I have same motor as you (minus fuel injection) and cvt cover is stamped with .18L of gear oil needed. Do not fill until it comes out of the fill hole or it will be overfilled. Then you'll end up with gear oil in your airbox, ruining your air filter.

valve cover gasket - You can reuse your existing EPDM rubber one many times. I made the mistake of buying a couple of extras that will probably never be used.

Sounds like you know your way around a tool box so you should be able to handle any work required on the bike. Hope you enjoy it!
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