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Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« on: October 04, 2010, 05:40:50 AM »
Lately it seems that it takes a long time for my Agility 50 to warm up even in 65 degree weather.  I have to run it for at least five minutes before it starts to run smooth.  Anyone have any idea's or suggestions what the problem might be?

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2010, 12:25:22 PM »
Put 1 oz. per gal. of seafoam into the gas and put a new NGK iridium plug in . Good luck .

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2010, 02:41:47 PM »
From my experience it is one of those things that you just have to get used to.  The agilitys just don't like the cold, or the rain, especially the cold and rain together.

I does seems a little unusal that you would need to warm up that long if temps are still in the 60s, but  as Word would say each scoot has their own personality.  I find that even in the 50-60 degree range there is some warm-up involved, but usually reasonably gentle driving helps warm it up - alhtough there will be some hesitation for the first few minutes.     


Taking 5 minutes to warm it up before you even try to ride if the scoot has been sitting outside in temps below 50 degrees isn't unusal in my experience.  Depending how much cold weather you ride in, you might be up to 10 minutes of warm-up for temps below 30 degrees. 
« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 03:36:26 PM by oswaldters »

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2010, 08:52:16 PM »
could be an auto choke issue  ;)
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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2010, 10:00:41 PM »
could be an auto choke issue

Yeah you go that right- the auto choke (auto bypass in Kymco lexicon) sucks on the agility.

First winter I called the dealer and they said everyone who has the agility is complaining and they bring in the scoot but there's nothing mechanically wrong.

They never found a solution for it - tried changing carbs, testing auto bypasses etc. but no luck.  Said just warm it up.


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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2010, 11:56:59 PM »
welcome to the kymco world. mine did the same tell I took it in to a dealer and they rejeted it for the cold weather it starts great in the cold but I did notice a little harder in warmer weather wich is fine with me . the frist year I had it I always had to heat the shed up just to start my scoot but Now I dont
it starts great in the cold. I beleave if you just have the carb tuned up and rejeted you well be all good.

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 12:00:27 AM »
That's good to hear that someone figured out a cold weather solution.  First I've heard.

What jet was put in?  I'll be getting one of those myself - getting cold here already.

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 12:05:23 AM »
That's good to hear that someone figured out a cold weather solution.  First I've heard.

What jet was put in?  I'll be getting one of those myself - getting cold here already.

not sure what size they put in I cant find my old one to see what size was taken out.
mmmm I do rember seeing eather the #  89  or 98 not sure so dont hold me to this.

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 01:22:32 AM »
Lately it seems that it takes a long time for my Agility 50 to warm up even in 65 degree weather.  I have to run it for at least five minutes before it starts to run smooth.  Anyone have any idea's or suggestions what the problem might be?

..i do that in hot or cold weather anyway...however....



..it's a normal temperature change issue...

..it's true, the a50 is sensitive to temp and humidity changes..espeacially, if you're using a K&N type air filter...

..you might try opening the idle screw 1/4-1/2 a turn counter clockwise...

..that'll increase the fuel ratio to air into your idle mix...


..colder air is more dense, which might require a bit more fuel to keep it running well...
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 08:58:17 PM »
my gosh it was just a suggestion ::)
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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 11:28:01 PM »
my gosh it was just a suggestion

And a good one at that.  Sensing any frustration on my part with that auto bypass? 

I'd rather have a manual choke that works...

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 11:45:04 PM »
..that "Auto-Bystarter" is just another manifestation of the nature of the beast...


..zombie, and i think, shaka are running manual chokes on their zx's...

..dunno of any other....
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 11:58:14 PM »
running manual chokes

That sounds tempting - I might consider that!

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2010, 12:02:20 AM »
..yeah, sometimes my scoot needs "auto" choking...sometimes it is more of a nuisance....
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 12:04:28 AM »
Let's cut out the middle man and just go with the fuel injection.

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