no going back, now, motor out!

[Iahawk]

final pic in this series..went for a 24 mile ride late this morning..everything is working fine, nothing shook loose or fell off, so that's good! I will correct an earlier statement where I said the scoot's sweet spot was 25-40 mph. I think it's really about 20-35 mph where it feels best. I completely understand Stig's target early morning riding speeds.

[CROSSBOLT]

Outstanding! Really informative post.

What's next? Har, har!

[Iahawk]

Outstanding! Really informative post.

What's next? Har, har!

I hope nothing!...but we all know that isn't going to happen...I do have a master brake cylinder rebuild kit and caliper rebuild kit for the Helix...sitting in a box...hmmmmm.....

[Neil955i]

Good news Hawk.  Job well done!

[monkeybongos]

I do have a master brake cylinder rebuild kit and caliper rebuild kit for the Helix...sitting in a box...hmmmmm.....

After what you've done Hawk, those two repairs should be a cinch.  Although the c-clip in the master cylinder can be a bitch to remove/replace.  As for the sweet spot, does it seem low?  My Cali 200 (169cc) glides effortlessly at 35-45mph (actual).

[Iahawk]

After what you've done Hawk, those two repairs should be a cinch.  Although the c-clip in the master cylinder can be a bitch to remove/replace.  As for the sweet spot, does it seem low?  My Cali 200 (169cc) glides effortlessly at 35-45mph (actual).

I guess I'm referring to the 'comfort' sweet spot speed (?) Very comfortable at those speeds. The faster I go (it will hit an indicated low to mid 60's in perfect conditions - downhill) the rougher the ride gets. A stiff, cheap suspension with not a lot travel doesn't = a nice ride at higher speeds on anything less than perfect pavement.

I rode my Helix last night..and with the foot longer wheelbase and softer suspension it's a joy to ride at highway speeds. None of the jackhammer-like feeling in the bars at speed.

I still love the S200..but it's my 'around town' scoot and will choose my other rides for higher speeds.

[Ruffus]

@hawk, check after a while the sparkplugs color.
lf you happy with (greyish/lightbrownish)  adjust  the gas a little bit richer, should revv smoother at mentioned speed.

[Iahawk]

@hawk, check after a while the sparkplugs color.
lf you happy with (greyish/lightbrownish)  adjust  the gas a little bit richer, should revv smoother at mentioned speed.

Ruffus, I may not be clear in my descriptions...the 'uncomfortable at higher speed' is purely due to the suspension design..nothign to do with the engine / cvt, etc. It's just a cheap scooter suspension with very little travel that is not comfortable (for me) at higher speeds on rougher roads. The higher speeds, combined with the concrete roads with expansion strips, gives the scoot a kind of 'pogo stick' feel at higher speeds. The bars also give a feeling of moving up and down quickly, similar to a jackhammer feel.

If this was my only scoot I wouldn't know any different...but comparing it to my Helix and Ninja 300 it has a poor feel at higher speeds. No worries, though, because it's perfectly fine around town. It accelerates quickly and handles well. It's just not comfortable over big bumps or at higher speed. I just got in from a 17 mile ride around town. Beautiful day..cloudy and in the 70's! (23 or 24 C), perfect day for a ride!

[Ruffus]

Ah, my bad, got it, it's simply like it is.
As my Grand Dink is wobbly in certain conditions.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Yeah Hawk, in the dark going out for my coffee I am freq riding in the low to mid 20's - especially when raining and dark!
Coming home a touch over 30/35mph if full daylight. Rarely over low 30's if raining hard then.

I always notice that I'm riding home 3>5 mph faster on the big wheeled Liberty than on the 12's of the LIKE.

It is a nice speed to enjoy the countryside. I'm in no hurry.
As for the bumpy roads - I planned my routes years ago to avoid lousy roads as the LIKE is a miserable riding thing over pot-holes.
Remember> that LIKE has been under the impression that 2 normal Asians have been aboard for the past decade......6'4" 263lbs.....and the suspension is thusly compressed as well....and even the extra 4" I built into the seat makes it just comfortable. But, I do not like listening to the plastic front fender rattlying over the rough stuff.


Stig

[Iahawk]

Remember> that LIKE has been under the impression that 2 normal Asians have been aboard for the past decade......6'4" 263lbs.....and the suspension is thusly compressed as well....

Stig

Stig for the win!

[Iahawk]

I’ve put about 140 miles on the scoot since the motor ‘reassembly’ and there are no oil leaks. I’m actually kind of pleasantly surprised because I would have bet that something would be seeping / leaking / dripping! I also didn’t have any left over parts form the rebuild…that’s another pleasant surprise.

[Mgraniel]

Quick question, what are the oil seal sizes for the engine?  Also where did you purchase them?  I've been searching for new seals for a 163cc and I don't know where to find the sizes. 
Thanks for the help

[Iahawk]

sorry, can't recall the sizes but I ordered them from my local Kymco dealer. You can also try Leeson's online ordering tool, they seem to be popular.

I think they are probably the same size as the crank oil seals on any 125 or 150cc GY6 motor.

https://www.leesonsarcticcat.com/

[JJJoseph]

Still a mystery.

Excellent drama!  We, like Dr.Watson, are waiting for the denouement! (Look it up:-)