Clutch removal tool

[Faber32]

Hi guys  Another job waiting for me. The clutch on my People Gti works really bad, it's time to replace it. Do you know if the removal tools on the market fit Kymco clutches? I suspect that the three pin on the tool don't match with the holes on the clutch.
Thank you :-)

[Iahawk]

I'm not familiar with the GT 300 clutch...when you remove the cvt cover, does the clutch bell look like a standard one? If so you can use a variator / clutch holding tool ..either buy a universal one or make it yourself (I chose the latter).

[Faber32]

Hi, thank you this is a great idea. To remove the 39 mm nut, I can use the impact wrench. To reinstall it and torque it I could try with your method. I'll think about it

[Iahawk]

I apologize, I think we're talking about 2 different things, here. I was referring to the clutch bell nut - and how to remove that. You are asking about the large nut on the clutch itself? I've removed that with an impact wrench, and putting both feet on the clutch, holding it on the floor so it doesn't spring apart when the large nut is loosened. To torque it back I just used the same impact wrench and held it in the same position, on the floor with one foot on either side of the large nut.

[Stig / Major Tom]

I didn't have a 39mm socket for the big clutch nut....but a 1.5" socket - tapped on - works a treat!
Stig

[Faber32]

Thank you very much   
I have extracted from a recent video some pics of the clutch thickness. I know it's not easy from pictures, but you have more experience than me. Is it in your opinion to replace?
Service manual says minimum thickness 4 mm if I remember well.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Thank you very much   
I have extracted from a recent video some pics of the clutch thickness. I know it's not easy from pictures, but you have more experience than me. Is it in your opinion to replace?
Service manual says minimum thickness 4 mm if I remember well.

My cyclepedia manual states 2mm is the service limit for clutch pads on a LIKE200i.
My opinion is that your clutch pads look good for some miles yet.
Perhaps they need :
1) black residue dust removed
2) a de-glazing the pads with some sand paper
3) thorough cleaning inside the clutch bell

If your take-up as you pull away is still jerking or rough - perhaps you might try to be a bit more abrupt with the throttle to limit the lippage on take-offs. Not harsh - but babying the clutch can lead to glazed pads fairly quickly and its resulting jerky behavior.

Just my thoughts - granted I don't own a bigger scoot like yours.

Stig

[Iahawk]

I agree with Stig..those clutch pads look like they have plenty of life left. I'd also give them a quick scrub with some sandpaper to remove any glaze and do the same to the inside of your clutch bell.  No reason to replace that clutch.

[Faber32]

Thank you guys  . Years ago my Kymco dealer told me it's a common issue on People Gti and that they jerk and they replace them very often. Don't know if it's true. I'll give a try sanding. Anyway I think I'm under the 4 mm of the service manual. I'll see if it improves sanding. Thanks again

[Ruffus]

@Faber32, just in case your clutch is still open...!!
Sand the shoes a bit, then soak it with WD 40 or similar. Let it sit for a while, you'll see any jerking and rattling is gone.

[Faber32]

@Ruffus: thank you

[monkeybongos]

Ruffus, how does soaking the pads w WD-40 help?  Never heard that before...

[Stig / Major Tom]

Ruffus,
Using WD40 or an equivalent lubricant on a scooter's clutch pads  is a controversial suggestion.
Brake cleaner maybe, WD40 no.....is pretty common thinking.
I imagine you have a shop mechanic suggesting this - but I think you will find little support from a majority of scooter owners or mechanics.
Manufacturers place nothing between clutch pads and the inside surface of the metal clutch bells.

But I'm certain you have your reasons for suggesting WD40.

Stig

[Ruffus]

There are many things between sky and earth which seem to be weird. But this works and is not controversial.
And BTW, WD is not a lubricant.

[Stig / Major Tom]

There are many things between sky and earth which seem to be weird. But this works and is not controversial.
And BTW, WD is not a lubricant.

Lubricant on not, we'll have to agree to disagree on using WD40 on clutch pads Ruffus.

Stig