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New big brother for like 150i
« on: July 10, 2022, 02:41:17 PM »
Came time to add a highway capable scooter to the collection.  I miss commuting to work on a scooter.  I have to be there at 5 am and I am not a morning person.  To scoot the back way can take almost an hour (highway is 15 minutes).  And even taking the back way there’s still a short jaunt on a 55 mph road and while the like surprisingly can handle it speed wise, on a windy day it is not confidence inspiring at all.  The only highway capable scooter that I really like is the Vespa Gts, so I made a rash financial decision and bought one yesterday.  Was going to hold out until next year, but I stopped at my dealers yesterday and they just so happened to be pulling the exact one I would order fresh out of the crate.   Figured it must be fate.  It hasn’t been easy for them to get them in and keep them in stock with the current supply chain issues.  So I used all these as an excuse to justify my purchase 🤪.   And man is she just so smooth.  Now to figure out if I keep the like, which I really want to do or if I really need 2 scooters. 

It’s like going from a Kia to an Italian Cadillac. 



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Re: New big brother for like 150i
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2022, 04:06:16 PM »
That's a pretty scooter!
Not convinced any except big long wheelbase and heavy maxi scoots belong on the highways - but many ride these Vespas with their little wheels there.
Always wondered what the ride would be like - stepping off a Kymco LIKE200i and onto the seat of a Vespa which costs more than thrice as much.
Piaggio dealer near here folded his tent 5 yrs ago - so will never get the chance to find out.

Enjoy...
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Re: New big brother for like 150i
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2022, 09:18:02 PM »
Great taste in scooters! You'll have to give us a ride review after putting a few miles in it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2022, 02:21:43 AM »
Great taste in scooters! You'll have to give us a ride review after putting a few miles in it.

Definitely will.  Going to wait until break in is over and i can actually open it up.  Also I want to let the initial honeymoon excitement to subside a bit so I can be more objective.   
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2022, 06:57:04 PM »
Break in is finally over with.   So I can give
A quick 650 miles review.  Just got back from a brisk ride on the freeway.  Power delivery is super linear.  Feels like there’s plenty of passing power on tap all the Way up to 70 mph.  I couldn’t get it pass 73 mph, either someone was merging in front of me or a curve was coming up.  Was curious to see what the stock 75 mph limiter felt like.

If I am being honest Though, I didn’t quite like what this scooter felt like (in stock form) at 70(+) mph.  It felt like quite a task to fight the wind/drag/turbulence at that speed (it was also a very windy day so that might be contributing as well).  Definitely going to be fitting a small windscreen, to at least get that wind off the chest.   While it felt a lot smoother then my like 150i ever felt on the highway, you could still tell at times that you are still on a 12” wheeled scooter. Though the extra weight (gts is 100 lbs heavier then the like 150i) definitely feels more planted.  And the power is there (up to 70 mph).  I did feel fairly comfortable in the left lane passing people on a 60 mph highway.  Its also been a long time since I’ve ridden 2 wheels on the highway (besides short spurts here and there) so I need to build up some more confidence.  It’s also like zooming around town, people see scooter and feel the need to pass you, especially so on the highway.  I did get a couple double takes from people.  Like “oh a Scooter, wait on the highway!?!?”  I really think the sweet spot for this scooter is 55 mph.  I wouldn’t hesitate to ride cross country at that speed. 

Zooming around town this scooter is zippy as heck.  At first I was a little disappointed at acceleration form a stop, until I learned turning off asr/traction control would give you those speedy launches (not that I need to drag race everywhere, but don’t get me started on drivers not knowing how to use a roundabout around here).   

Build quality is still amazing.  Everything is top quality, right down to the switches.  So at least when you finally cough up the dough for one of these (still an insane amount of money for me to spend on a scooter) you know you’re getting all high end components and build quality.  There’s zero rattle and even vibrations can hardly be felt.  The seat is super comfortable (my biggest complaint about my like 150i was how uncomfortable that seat was).  Brake levers, mirrors, grips, glove box door, and even the few plastic bits have a nice sturdy quality feel to them.  I can’t find anything to complain about feeling cheap.  Well maybe the fact that it still has incandescent turn signals but that’s easily remedied.  There’s an insane amount of accessories for the Vespa’s.

Another amazing thing about the gts 300 is the increased amount of legroom and “cabin” space.  Being longer and wider, there’s plenty of room to slide about and stretch one’s legs every which way, which we all know is incredibly great on a long ride.  Though it’s a more upright position vs the lounge chair like position you get on the maxi scooters.   The gts 300 is a good in between size where you can feel comfortable on a long ride but yet it’s still feels nimble around town.


Well my little review is almost a novel already.  So time to hit on my cons.   My biggest complaint is the brakes.   They feel wooden.  I am finding myself having to brake early and plan ahead more for it.   The Like 150i I could brake one handed.  I am hoping they improve a bit as it breaks in More, but so far I am planning on upgrading them.  I’ll start with better pads if that doesn’t do the trick, then better calipers will be next.
 
Whom ever designed the dipstick should be shot.  For a scooter that has warnings to check the oil often (can’t remember if the manual says before every ride or every fill up), getting that dipstick back in correctly almost requires a contortionist.  Not only is it right behind the exhaust, you also have to feed it through 2 different holes inside the casing.   So during my first service I swapped for an oil pan that was fitted with a sight glass so I now I can just check oil level with a quick glance.  I wish they would do away with the useless kick stand and apply that money towards a sight glass (even on my girlfriends sprint 150 I don’t trust the kickstand on a Vespa).   

Lastly is the fuel tank size (a common complaint on most scooters).   Though I am sure my mpg should improve with some more miles (think I am getting around 65 mpg at the moment, but that’s mostly stop and go urban riding) I feel like I am constantly stopping for fuel.  Though I will admit I am very ocd with refueling and tend to fill up when my tank is around 1/3 full.  I feel like if one was to actually tour with this scooter you would have to carry a gas can of some sort.

I wasn’t after the digital display, but I was the only way to get the color I wanted.  While I find the navigation lacking a bit. It just shows an arrow on the dash, along with distance to turn, And speed limit (which flashes when you are going above).  It’s still nice to have on the display though.  Having a digital speedometer has grown on me a bit though.   (And according to those speed trailer things, is actually fairly accurate, which is the exact opposite I’ve heard about Vespa speedo’s).  The phone app that corresponds with the digital display, I thought was a gimmick until I found you can see engine metrics (coolant temp, rpm, voltage, mpg….etc ) albeit on your phone screen, so it didn’t quite eliminate the need for a ram mount which I was hoping for.    I hope there’s some software updates that will enable one to set a custom display on the dash.  I’ve heard someone has made an app that will do that for android, but I have an Apple. 


Anyways sorry for the novella review.  Ultimately I decided to get a Vespa gts from dealing with my girlfriend’s sprint 150 the last 6 years or so (only done fluid changes and a new battery).   We also hosted Amerivespa this year in Minneapolis and I annoyed every person I saw on a 300 gts with a million questions. And it was the bigger cc scooter I just liked the looks of the most. 

Funny thing is, shortly after I bought my ‘22 GTS, I found out there’s a fuel pump recall.   I was like you’ve got to be kidding me!!!!   Same thing happened with my Like 150i (it was leaking gas on my garage floor for a month).  Though the Vespa fuel pump recall was more serious as it would just shut the scooter off mid ride.   Luckily for me though, my scooter was not one in the batch of bad fuel pumps. 

So, after riding around on the gts for Awhile.  The decision was made to sale my like 150i.   I just didn’t need both of them sadly.  Though I wanted to keep both.  my wallet needed to recover from the purchase of the Vespa though.  So sadly the like is gone.  A very nice gal bought it.  She’s a nurse at the veterans home (coincidentally, my father used to work there). So I hope she gets years of enjoyment out of it. 
« Last Edit: August 14, 2022, 07:04:17 PM by Snoopzilla »
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Re: New big brother for like 150i
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2022, 08:16:24 PM »
Glad you like your Vespa. And good to hear that you can actually  feel the quality 👌
What is the real life OTD price on your 300?
And...interesting to finally hear a Vespa owner admit to feeling  reservations about riding in traffic at highway speeds on 12 inch wheels. That extra weight probably is something that contributes to the more secure and planted feel which maxis share.
Do you live where rust (on the belly) will be a concern?

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2022, 09:12:14 PM »
Glad you like your Vespa. And good to hear that you can actually  feel the quality 👌
What is the real life OTD price on your 300?
And...interesting to finally hear a Vespa owner admit to feeling  reservations about riding in traffic at highway speeds on 12 inch wheels. That extra weight probably is something that contributes to the more secure and planted feel which maxis share.
Do you live where rust (on the belly) will be a concern?

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My actual out there door price was $9142. It’s the supertech the most expensive one (a base model gts is around $8300 out the door  (Sticker price is $7749, tax $800, document fee $100 and freight was $600ish, they didn’t charge me a set up fee since we’ve now bought 6 scooters from, my
Girlfriend actually got so jealous when I came home with the gts.  She went and traded in her 2016 sprint for a new 2022 primavera that same day.  (she really wanted the seafoam color, she was going to have her sprint painted but the cost to paint was just about the same difference to trade in and buy a new one.  (Sorry now that I think about it, she didn’t trade it in, but sold it on Facebook marketplace)  I had been looking for a nice used one for months and never found anything I liked.  Of course a couple days after I bought mine like 3 nice newer used ones popped up for sale.


I live in Minneapolis so rust is definitely a concern.  Though I will probably just wait until the salt is washed off the roads to ride.   Another option is there’s  a place by my work that does the paint protection film and I am might have them either just cover the bottom or the whole scooter depending on costs.  Though that doesn’t protect the inside engine compartment area, which is probably the area of biggest concern.  Looking into those oil sprays for that area.
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Re: New big brother for like 150i
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2022, 09:56:24 PM »
first of all, thank you for the detailed, honest, ride review! I've always been a fan of Vespa scooters and that 300 GTS would be my choice, as well (although I've heard they are much bigger in person with a high seat?..I'm short with an even shorter inseam...)

That is a lot of money for a scoot...but what the heck, you only live once...and you can sell a used Vespa for a large % of your purchase price whenever you want or need to.

I still think a 300cc class scoot is the sweet spot between around town usefulness and highway (not freeway) capability.

Regarding the rust...or oil sprays...ACF50 is a great product...I first learned of it on youtube from the many British bikers who used it and swore by it for their long, wet winters. Stig is a big user, too, and he's a year 'round rider.

Thanks, again, for the excellent initial ride report.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2022, 10:41:24 PM »
Oh cool.  Thanks for the tip on the rust prevention stuff.  I just found this stuff I might give a try on the innards
3M Cavity Wax Plus Aerosol Spray, 08852, 18 fl oz, Self-Healing, Corrosion Protection, Non-Hardening, Chipping, Peeling, Cracking https://a.co/d/4qeno0k

I actually find the seat height on the gts to be lower then the like 150i, but yes it’s definitely wider. I am 6’ even and found myself tip toeing the like 150.  Gts I am flat footed at stop lights.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2022, 11:06:40 AM »
Interesting review Snoopzilla and as has been said, refreshingly honest. My daughter keeps asking me to get a Vespa and if I ever do, it would have to be the 300 GTS.  We have loads of Vespa dominated scooter clubs over here in the UK and I keep promising myself to go along to one on my Kymco!…
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2022, 10:11:07 PM »
Well I am over 1400 miles now and I need to update my review.   All those miles from 600 on have been on the freeway commuting to work.  And I’ll be damned.  I’ve grown quite fond of riding this on the highway.  With the one caveat of not on a super windy day.  I’ve fitted a small
Windscreen and that made all the difference with comfort over 55 mph.  Though the 75 mpg limiter (80 indicated) can be a little jarring when not paying attention.  I’ve been trying to keep it steady at 65 mph indicated.  So I guess I just needed a little time to get comfortable with it.
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