Kymco like 200i won't crank.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Best to stick with stock KYMCO part....

But first....



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Stig

[Rusty4589]

Tested the starter motor. Looks like it's working just fine.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Tested the starter motor. Looks like it's working just fine.

And the coil? With the multi-meter.

Stig

[Rusty4589]

Terminal resistance seemed to jump around from .6 to .8. Resistance from the spark plug wire end jumped around as well. Seemed to settle at 13.5

[Ruffus]

IMHO we are talking two different issues here in this case.
A) motor does not spin
gives several points to check why...
-starter itself too less power from battery
-battery cables really tight
-starter relais
-ground cabling
-battery
-all switches
-fuses again and their terminals

B) motor stalls during ride (if runs?)
-again harness
-ignition coil
-sparkplug and cap incl. high tension cable
(frails out sometimes, causes such symptoms)

C) ECU big plug correct set?
For now the failure code can be neclected, see them later.

All this points should be checked and ruled out before any sparepart is bought.

[MstExplr]

Hey all,

Thanm you for yhe advice. I have a new Battery that should be here tomorrow. Won't crank as Won't turn over. Bike just shows the 6 flashes and shuts off when I hit the ignition.

When you say "shuts off when I hit the ignition" do you mean the bike shuts down as if you turned the key off?  No lights, etc...?  If so, then a shorted starter button makes sense.  But would that have stopped the bike in the first place? 

[Rusty4589]

No, more like i just don't hear a crank, The lights dim when i hold the starter. I hear the fuel pump and starter relay, but the bike doesn't even try to turn over. That's why i keep thinking the engine seized.

[Rusty4589]

IMHO we are talking two different issues here in this case.
A) motor does not spin
gives several points to check why...


-starter itself too less power from battery
-battery cables really tight
-starter relais
-ground cabling
-battery
-all switches
-fuses again and their terminals

B) motor stalls during ride (if runs?)
-again harness
-ignition coil
-sparkplug and cap incl. high tension cable
(frails out sometimes, causes such symptoms)

C) ECU big plug correct set?
For now the failure code can be neclected, see them later.

All this points should be checked and ruled out before any sparepart is bought.

Thank you for the advice. What's a good way of going and checking all the systems. Haven't done much electrical troubleshooting before.

[Ruffus]

@Rusty4589, sorry but I cannot explain all this system checks in detail.
 
Please try to get someone with a multimeter and basic electrical or electronic understanding to follow my suggested steps.

[Roads by TJ]

I can see that a bad coil would stop the engine from running well enough albeit unusual for a coil to go out so soon. The part that I am not making the connection to is the engine not turning over. A bad starter would do that but as you said Stig that wouldn't stop an engine while running.
Rusty4589 can you hear the starter trying to engage? Forgive me if you answered that already.

[Rusty4589]

No, that's the weird part. I took the starter out and tested it with jumpers and a 12v marine battery and it was fine. For whatever reason it seem like the engine is seized.

[Ruffus]

@Rusty, one more way to check is:
-CVT cover off and looking inside whether there is somethng blocked on that side
-motor should crank without CVT on too

[Stig / Major Tom]

No, that's the weird part. I took the starter out and tested it with jumpers and a 12v marine battery and it was fine. For whatever reason it seem like the engine is seized.

You could check this by removing that center panel below the seat, remove spark plug.
Go to right side of engine reach in center of black plastic cover with a socket on short extension and try turning the engine clockwise.
This is where you turn engine to get TDC for valve adjustment.
Stig

[Ruffus]

You could check this by removing that center panel below the seat, remove spark plug.
Go to right side of engine reach in center of black plastic cover with a socket on short extension and try turning the engine clockwise.
This is where you turn engine to get TDC for valve adjustment.
Stig

IMO Too risky in case of a real blockage, because this airfan consists of plastic and this central 17mm nut is made from same material. Danger of shearing it off.
Better to remove this CVT cover and rotate counterclockwise at its CVT nut.

[Stig / Major Tom]

IMO Too risky in case of a real blockage, because this airfan consists of plastic and this central 17mm nut is made from same material. Danger of shearing it off.
Better to remove this CVT cover and rotate counterclockwise at its CVT nut.

It's a 14mm, and with the spark plug removed the engine will spin easily....0 compression.
I've adjusted my LIKE200I valves this was many times....why?..because it puts you on same side of engine which has the port for observing your TDC timing mark!
IF engine does not spin freely - Stop!
Might be seized !....which will be the first recorded case of a seized engine on a LIKE200I on this forum!......and I should have believed this man from the get go🙃
OP...do as you see fit.

Stig