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NSR: Time for better vision
« on: February 06, 2023, 03:28:32 AM »
For many years I've needed to wear glasses. I can see OK without them but not clearly. It first became apparent when I was driving and it was difficult to see the highway signs clearly until I was almost passing them. Before that all signs for distance to the next town or even the speed limit signs were becoming noticeably blurry until I was less than 100 ft near them. Had my eyes checks and went right to bifocals, so I ended up with progressive lenses for my first pair and also since... until just 4 years ago.

I found out that since I was retired military I could get lined bifocals from the Navy Ophthalmology Department... for free! They did not offer progressive lenses for retired persons so I decided to try the lined bifocals and also bought a pair of progressive glasses locally. I could get a new free pair from the military every 2 years. I decided I liked the military glasses since they do NOT have AR coatings applied on them which I always found to start flaking off after about 1.5 years. I know there are some glasses with coatings that are better quality but I'm cheap and not about to pay the prices for those. And since the military glasses do not have such coatings and were actually better quality than any other glasses I bought I decided to try going with just the lined bifocals from the military. It was the lined bifocal bit that had me most concerned and was the only detail I didn't like about them, but the last 2 years with only those I found that they were not so bad. I found that I was able to see clearly through the distance part of the lens for reading the road and signs on the road, and see the dash clearly through the lower near part. All without moving my head.  :)
BUT I could not use lined bifocals to work on my computer since I found myself needing to lean forward and tilt my head back to read my computer screen which ended up giving me a sore neck. So I would continue to wear my old progressive glasses for any computer work.  :(

Well, aging continues to take its toll and also with different bikes and cars as well as still trying to read the computer screen. And my old progressive glasses are getting so out of my current prescription as well as getting so scratched up and flaked that they are getting harder and harder to use.

I had a vision checkup last week to update my prescription and talked about what I can do to make the computer screen easier to see with the bifocals. I also talked about how the bike and car instruments are a bit farther out than they used to be and also hard to see. I needed to focus on those things at somewhere between the distance and near sections of the lined bifocals. I asked if I needed TRIfocals now or if progressive lenses were the only way to do what I needed. The vision doc told me that trifocals are about the same as progressive lenses. The only difference is the smooth blend of progressives but they really do the same that trifocals would do since I wanted to continue to get my glasses from the military. Did I mention that I'm cheap?

So I ordered my military trifocals last week and expect to have them next week. 🤓

Anyone else use, or have used, lined bifocals or trifocals?
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Re: NSR: Time for better vision
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2023, 03:57:26 AM »
Used them for a few years but the lines made my eyes go crazy!!  Went to progressives but couldn't hack the narrow field of vision.  After playing with various options I found a progressive with a wide field of view, one of the brands are Varilux lenses, can be worn by pilots to fly with.  Great vision at all distances as well as side to side.  NOT cheap, but what a difference, I can see things I haven't been able to see clearly in years.  The coatings are warranted for life of the lenses, had these for over 10 years with no issues!  Not cheap but the excellent vision is well worth it !!

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Re: NSR: Time for better vision
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2023, 09:40:37 PM »
I wear progressive lenses. I have had the same issue you had when trying to use my computer. My eye doc recommended using a pair of cheaters for the computer. $10-15 bucks a pair so even the most parsimonious of us can afford them.

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Re: NSR: Time for better vision
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2023, 11:48:32 PM »
I tried looking for readers at Walmart but none that they had worked for the distance I need... about 2 ft. I'm thinking readers set for 1.00 might work but they didn't have those available on the rack.

Got a notice that my military glasses order is in the mail and should be here tomorrow or Wednesday. So I'll "see" how they work for me.
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Re: NSR: Time for better vision
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2023, 07:09:59 PM »
Folks, when you get past 50, get your eyes tested for glaucoma. I waited 7 years - my prescription never changed.
Though I'd go get new glasses.
Have permanently lost.....well, don't really have a % for it. I can no longer read any of the letters on the eye chart with my L eye. Peripheral vision still good with it.

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Re: NSR: Time for better vision
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2023, 11:15:54 PM »
I've had progressive lenses for 20+ years. More recently, my PCP diagnosed me with diabetes, I've been borderline for I don't know how long, but hit that magic number in my labs, however not diabetic enuf for drugs or insulin, or even a special diet.

The importance of the diagnosis, Medicare coverage includes eye exams for diabetics, so I get one every year now, my Medicare Advantage supplement, also reimburses up to $500 for glasses above and beyond the exam  (Martin's Point, but I'm not sure if their plan is available outside of Maine or New Hampshire)

another note, I told my eye doctor, that I ride motorcycle (sportbike) and because of that, they put the transition of my bifocals about 1mm higher in my lenses so I can read my speedo. also helps with computer use

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2023, 04:59:27 PM »
Yes...very critical to get the lens in the proper position or they won't work !!  Battled that when I was working as a toolmaker. I even had a prism added for closeup work.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2023, 06:39:30 PM »
Yes...very critical to get the lens in the proper position or they won't work !!  Battled that when I was working as a toolmaker. I even had a prism added for closeup work.

my ex had trifocals reading on top and bottom, and distance in the middle, for reading overhead monitors
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Re: NSR: Time for better vision
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2023, 06:59:31 PM »
I'm not so "special" that I need extra features in my glasses. Just the normal bifocals or trifocals. The military source does a really good job, or has so far, getting the lines and focus centers where they need to be. There are special measurements more than what comes on the usual vision prescription that the military request form has to make sure the sweet spot is nailed down.

Per the latest tracking report they should be arriving in the mail today.
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Re: NSR: Time for better vision
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2023, 10:51:24 PM »
After cataract surgery, I buy 2.25 diopter reading glasses from Amazon.  The $3 glasses work fine
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2023, 11:11:06 PM »
Glasses received and they work for me perfectly at first usage. I can tell it will be a little bit of an adjustment to get used to that narrow band of the middle focal length. I sat on my AK and the top line of that narrow band is just above the dash brow and the lower line of the band is just below the dash, between the dash and the center of the handlebar cover logo. Same in my car where the instrument cluster is also seen very much more clearly in that center focal length band. Also the same on my computer. I can hold my head normally without tilting up or down and see these things clearly right where I should without leaning in. Much more relaxing. It is good to be able to see the computer screen or my bike dash clearly again without leaning closer and tipping my head up. It is good to be able to see the computer screen or my bike dash clearly again without leaning closer and tipping my head up. I used to just put up with the bike dash being a little blurry. I WAS using my old progressive glasses to work on the computer but I think I no longer need to do that now. Those old progressives are so scratched up they were becoming a bother in another way.

I do notice that when reading my phone while I am holding it in my hand I have to be sure to hold it just a little lower in my lap since it is closer than my computer screen or the bike dash instruments. But that's no biggie since I sometimes would do that anyway before. I just have to be sure to do that all the time now for reading books or my phone.

The distance focal band seems to be right where it was even though I am able to tell that upper line is higher than it was with my bifocals. But my line of sight is, and was, higher anyway. More centered in that part of the glasses.

So I'll find out how long it takes to make using these trifocals automatic for me. I do recall there was a little bit of an adjustment going to lined bifocals so I expect no different for the trifocals.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2023, 11:15:01 PM by rjs987 »
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