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Start sequence
« on: February 09, 2023, 12:12:09 PM »
I have just begun (the Carpenter's song is now stuck in my head!) to fiddle with an idea involving a super capacitor and the ECU to improve starting. The test bed will be the UXV500i but it will apply to nearly every model with marginal starting systems (which does not include the Like 200i models).

The biggest challenge is the switchology that seems necessary to isolate  the cap and ECU temporarily while actual cranking, then to isolate the cap at shut-down.

Will advise..
Karl

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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2023, 03:17:48 PM »
I understand none of this...but good luck, sir!!
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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2023, 08:21:03 AM »
I understand none of this...but good luck, sir!!

Hawk thank you for your honesty you speak for many of us I’m sure!

Karl, go for it man if anyone can I’m sure you can.
Regards & ride safe,
Neil

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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2023, 03:04:15 PM »
Hawk thank you for your honesty you speak for many of us I’m sure!

Karl, go for it man if anyone can I’m sure you can.

no, no....I got it.
let me 'splain ...it's simple NASA stuff.

I bet Ruffus knows.....
above my pay grade
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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2023, 09:14:49 PM »
no, no....I got it.
let me 'splain ...it's simple NASA stuff.

I bet Ruffus knows.....
above my pay grade
Stig

D’you know, my money was on Ruffus being the only other one on here likely to follow that OP…
Regards & ride safe,
Neil

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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 10:06:53 PM »
LOL😆😆, Stig and Neil txs alot for this flowers.
Indeed I do have some knowledge and experience in this field since I needed for my MOTO GUZZIs bowels something less voluminous than Bb batteries.

But all my experiments with super caps until were in vain, because I couldn't produce a working BMS (battery management system) which would be:
small enough, reliable enough, safe enough and cheaper than batteries on the market.

So I came back to LiFePo4 batteries and simply changed the motorcycles guts, put different sidepanels on it and that was it.

There is for sure a way to do it, put right now I don't have time follow this path, for my heart is more in restoration than developement.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2023, 10:08:42 PM by Ruffus »
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2023, 08:49:31 AM »
Ruffus, if that red seat Guzzi is the after pic of the before below it, you did a GREAT restoration job!  Follow your heart buddy!
Regards & ride safe,
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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2023, 11:27:56 AM »
Neil yes, is was that one. Little bit neclected but a few drops of oil and some strokes with a paint brush helped.😉
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2023, 11:57:25 AM »
There were some other projects too, i.g.
A beautiful Moto Guzzi California 1100 ie painted in "champagne" and a
nice BMW 1150 RS which I used to move around on race tracks, approximately all the same technical outfit. Two cylinders, cardan, electronic injection.
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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2023, 03:26:41 PM »
beautiful work, Ruffus!
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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2023, 11:57:03 PM »
Yes, Ruffus, that is some really nice work! That Guzzi or whatever in the boneyard: what a daunting starting point! Hats off to you!
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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2023, 07:59:49 PM »
Thanks all!
The next patient is already in line. Let's see what the owner decides to make of it, a Café Racer or leave it a classical V35C with contemporary looks.
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2023, 11:46:48 PM »
nice looking bike! I love the classic bike rebuilds..be sure to keep us updated on the progress! I had to look up that model as I'm not too familiar with the Moto Guzzi lineup...350cc, 90 degree v twin, shaft drive, early / mid 80's? Go Ruffus!
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Re: Start sequence
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2023, 11:06:02 AM »
hawk yes,
this is those so called "piccolo serie" (small models) which consisted V35, V50, V65. All of them same frame, from ca.1980 on ignition under front shield together with BOSCH or SAPRISA alternator. Made them more reliable then before.
Besides that, pretty much the same setup like compareable BMWs, relais, diode carrier, BREMBO integrale brake systems, etc.
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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