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Re: Time for new tires?
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2023, 12:38:10 AM »
So I ordered tires yesterday and found out that tire beads exist. Apparently they balance the tire as it is spinning. Do these actually work? or anyone have experence with them

Yes, that is how they work. As the tire spins the balancing beads orient themselves automatically to balance out the tire/wheel.

I replace the rear rubber on my AK myself and used Dyna Beads balancing beads. Was on Interstate for a short time running about 70+ mph during my ride yesterday, and a lot of 55+ mph and some 65+ mph road for just over 100 miles total for that ride. The beads worked great. Could not tell any difference from when weights were used. Just make sure you use the right amount and don't spill any. Due to the factory TPMS on my tires I couldn't put them in through the valve stem so had to pour them into the tire before seating the bead... IOW, spoon one side of the tire on the rim, then pour in the beads, then spoon the second side on the rim, and while keeping the valve stem up (as in not at the bottom) air up the tire to pop the tire bead on the rim.

I figure if they were not working it would show up on the Interstate.
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Re: Time for new tires?
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2023, 03:39:18 AM »
Yes, that is how they work. As the tire spins the balancing beads orient themselves automatically to balance out the tire/wheel.

I replace the rear rubber on my AK myself and used Dyna Beads balancing beads. Was on Interstate for a short time running about 70+ mph during my ride yesterday, and a lot of 55+ mph and some 65+ mph road for just over 100 miles total for that ride. The beads worked great. Could not tell any difference from when weights were used. Just make sure you use the right amount and don't spill any. Due to the factory TPMS on my tires I couldn't put them in through the valve stem so had to pour them into the tire before seating the bead... IOW, spoon one side of the tire on the rim, then pour in the beads, then spoon the second side on the rim, and while keeping the valve stem up (as in not at the bottom) air up the tire to pop the tire bead on the rim.

I figure if they were not working it would show up on the Interstate.

I had never heard of them. I follow a guy on youtube called Mithes scooter stuff and he used balancing beads when installing new tires on his vespa. I didnt use them when I did my first tire install. Might have to try them out; front tire is arriving via UPS tomorow and the rear should be in by friday. I ordered some rim shield protectors as well. This time I will not install the tires the wrong way. Last time I did a tire install I forgot that they were directional tires and had to redo the whole tire over again.
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Re: Time for new tires?
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2023, 11:03:18 AM »
“Whatever that meant”? Really Viper?  Shame on you!  The Manx GP held every September on the IoM is the stepping stone to the TT and a specialist meet for classic machinery ineligible for the TT. Been a few times and for my money it’s a better event than the TT as it’s so much more laid back and friendly. Last went in 2016.

I did know - he talked about ALL THE TIME :) it was very poor sarcasm.

He was a true racer, just his personal life was such a mess that I think it held him back.

I'd love to go one year.

I always liked Avon

See, I was avoiding mentioning my favourites/hates but I hate Avons with a passion, although I know other people love them - it really is horses for courses out there.
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2023, 01:27:18 PM »
I did know - he talked about ALL THE TIME :) it was very poor sarcasm.

He was a true racer, just his personal life was such a mess that I think it held him back.

I'd love to go one year.

See, I was avoiding mentioning my favourites/hates but I hate Avons with a passion, although I know other people love them - it really is horses for courses out there.

It's a yearning of mine to get back to the Manx too.  As for Avons - only tried them once.  Does that answer your question?
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2023, 02:48:29 PM »
It's a yearning of mine to get back to the Manx too.  As for Avons - only tried them once.  Does that answer your question?

We all love a good Avon Roadslider.
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2023, 03:27:44 PM »
We all love a good Avon Roadslider.

Yep, that was my gripe, iffy grip and you never knew quite when it would let go!
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2023, 04:03:41 AM »
 So I ordered my new tires and they have arrived! I plan on installing them on monday when I am off from working the weekend. Where I live only motorcycle dealer that I contacted wanted $50.00 to install one tire if I provided them and 25.00 to install both if I purchaced them myself. I did it myself last time and saved a fortune. For two Duro tires it cost me about $110 Dollars Plus I had to get new tire rim shields plus some Dyna Beads.

I plan on doing a smoky burnout with my old tires; I will share the video with everyone. Wish me luck!
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2023, 01:08:29 PM »
Tire lube is worth getting.  I found a small size at NAPA.  Vaseline or dish soap if nothing else.
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Re: Time for new tires?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2023, 11:08:39 PM »
One down, one to go. Suprisingly it didnt take as long as when I put the first set of tires on. I was unable to do the front because the axle nut was sezed in place. I tried to break it free with a 3/8 wrench and breaker bar and ended up snapping the teeth inside the wrench  >:( Not a good move on my part. Just waiting on a breaker bar and a new 3/8 ratchet to come in before I tackle the front.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2023, 11:16:05 PM »
Tire lube is worth getting.  I found a small size at NAPA.  Vaseline or dish soap if nothing else.

I ended up using vasoliene from the dollar store. That and actually heating the tire up before install really helped. I preheated the oven for 250 and let it heat up to tempature, turned it off and placed the tire on a large cookie sheet for about ten minutes. When i pulled it out it was very flexable and went on the rim like a glove!
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Re: Time for new tires?
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2023, 09:46:14 AM »
Hello everyone!
In the future, I will probably be installing the exact same brand because of the handling and I like that they ride well in the rain and snow.

Just curious, what brand tyre did you go with?
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Re: Time for new tires?
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2023, 10:02:12 AM »
I ended up using vasoliene from the dollar store. That and actually heating the tire up before install really helped. I preheated the oven for 250 and let it heat up to tempature, turned it off and placed the tire on a large cookie sheet for about ten minutes. When i pulled it out it was very flexable and went on the rim like a glove!
Just curious....is the Vaseline then cleaned off tire and rim?
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Re: Time for new tires?
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2023, 12:31:53 AM »
Just curious....is the Vaseline then cleaned off tire and rim?
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Yes, all it is used for is the ease of install. I do work in a tire shop and normally we use beadslick but I did not feel like paying for a container so I figured vasoliene would do just as well.
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2023, 03:18:27 AM »
Yes, all it is used for is the ease of install. I do work in a tire shop and normally we use beadslick but I did not feel like paying for a container so I figured vasoliene would do just as well.

But do you clean it off before seating the bead?
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« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2023, 02:10:45 AM »
But do you clean it off before seating the bead?

No, I used it before when I installed my first set of tires. When I pulled both off their was no trace of it on the bead.
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