Scooter suddenly started shaking on acceleration and rolls forward at idle

[mousejunks]

Sorry to read that, Mouse!
Since a CVT consists of a lot of parts, I would not take the mechanics statement as granted.

Front pulleys? What happened to them? Clutch, completely disintegrated? Belt, okay, should be.
Demand documentation of all this .

All complete CVT inclusive clutch and belt should not be more than €500,- for your scoot, plus two hours of labour.
 Do they charge you for diagnostics too?

They said a roller broke open which caused much damage so the pulleys, belt and clutch have to be replaced. I didn't get any more information than that so I will ask for information tomorrow.

Diagnostics will be included in the final price, no idea about the final value, but it will be much higher than 500 EUR. 

[Stig / Major Tom]

At those prices for all those parts on a 7 yr old 350 scooter - I'd pay them for their one hour of inspection, then I'd bring it home.
I'd do my own parts replacement ....as needed after inspecting.
A shattered weight might not have grenaded the entire CVT!....not every single part!?

But it is your dime, of course.
Good luck!
Stig

[CROSSBOLT]

What Stig said....
Firstly there is very little opportunity for roller pieces to escape their area to the outside, as I recall. May be as dust but that's ir. A broken clutch shoe spring definitely but not a whole clutch. Even spring pieces won't go that far unless very small, again, not spring failure mode.

[Ruffus]

Mouse, I personally have an aversion against such general judgments done by dealership.

CVT, clutch and belt replacement is not really rocketscience, if you obey certain things and have some tools and handiness at ready.

Some things to repair is out of laymans reach, but this can be done by you.

[mousejunks]

What Stig said....
Firstly there is very little opportunity for roller pieces to escape their area to the outside, as I recall. May be as dust but that's ir. A broken clutch shoe spring definitely but not a whole clutch. Even spring pieces won't go that far unless very small, again, not spring failure mode.

Mouse, I personally have an aversion against such general judgments done by dealership.

CVT, clutch and belt replacement is not really rocketscience, if you obey certain things and have some tools and handiness at ready.

Some things to repair is out of laymans reach, but this can be done by you.

I would mostly agree. I am relying on the mechanic's opinion at this point, still have no idea what the physical damage actually looks like.

Will update you all soon.

[mousejunks]

Update:

Mechanic wants $3000 just for the 2x front pulleys, ramp plate 2x rear pulleys, sliders, rollers and belt plus 5 hours total for labor. Not including the clutch shoes or springs which is surprisingly undamaged.


Ummm...

[Ericson]

I would gladly to this job for you for 3000 USD with shipping myself from Europe and back + parts + labor included 

Seriously - get the parts and do it yourself - it's a one hour job replacing all drive train with new parts. I'd get new clutch assembly as dissassembling the cluch without special tool is tricky and takes time so don't bother and buy whole clutch assembly and that will give you almost plug and play experience.

[mousejunks]

I would gladly to this job for you for 3000 USD with shipping myself from Europe and back + parts + labor included 

Seriously - get the parts and do it yourself - it's a one hour job replacing all drive train with new parts. I'd get new clutch assembly as dissassembling the cluch without special tool is tricky and takes time so don't bother and buy whole clutch assembly and that will give you almost plug and play experience.

They wanted 5 hours labour. Well...

I wanted the experience of being ripped off by a mechanic - because I have never taken a bike to a mechanic in my life. Some dream do come true 

Parts have been ordered and will be fitted soon.

[Neil955i]

They wanted 5 hours labour. Well...

I wanted the experience of being ripped off by a mechanic - because I have never taken a bike to a mechanic in my life. Some dream do come true 

Parts have been ordered and will be fitted soon.

You’ll have your reasons I’m sure, but when in a similar position 7 months ago with my 4 year-old X-Town I cut my losses and traded it in, as was, for the  DTX360. Had mine just been bust CVT parts I’d have had a go at it!

[mousejunks]

You’ll have your reasons I’m sure, but when in a similar position 7 months ago with my 4 year-old X-Town I cut my losses and traded it in, as was, for the  DTX360. Had mine just been bust CVT parts I’d have had a go at it!

I actually do remember your posts about the X-town with the transmission failure. Did you ever find out what it was - the CVT and/or the reduction gears? I think you were right in trading it in.

[Neil955i]

It was the Variator nut coming loose and the fan destroying the internals Mouse, crucially including stripping the splines on the drive shaft necessitating an engine split to replace it.  Beyond my home mechanic skills.

I have to say, much as I liked the X-Town, the DTX360 is proving to be a worthy replacement.

[Stig / Major Tom]

It was the Variator nut coming loose and the fan destroying the internals Mouse, crucially including stripping the splines on the drive shaft necessitating an engine split to replace it.  Beyond my home mechanic skills.

I have to say, much as I liked the X-Town, the DTX360 is proving to be a worthy replacement.

WoooWee!
If that ain't a warning to properly torque those 2 CVT nuts!!
CVT parts are one price...but, destroying the splines is a horror phone call from the mechanic!
Yeah, "sorta tight" is not good enough!...
Good reminder.
Stig

[Stig / Major Tom]

Update:

Mechanic wants $3000 just for the 2x front pulleys, ramp plate 2x rear pulleys, sliders, rollers and belt plus 5 hours total for labor. Not including the clutch shoes or springs which is surprisingly undamaged.


Ummm...

I think he is Politely telling you to Go away.
Do they have any good used parts on eBay where you live? Taken from a crashed scooter.
Do buy a new belt though.
Stig

[mousejunks]

It was the Variator nut coming loose and the fan destroying the internals Mouse, crucially including stripping the splines on the drive shaft necessitating an engine split to replace it.  Beyond my home mechanic skills.

I have to say, much as I liked the X-Town, the DTX360 is proving to be a worthy replacement.

This actually happened to me in my previous bike, the DT300i. But it was eventually nearing 80,000km so I decided that was the end.

[mousejunks]

I think he is Politely telling you to Go away.
Do they have any good used parts on eBay where you live? Taken from a crashed scooter.
Do buy a new belt though.
Stig

Parts are already ordered for DIY.

It was the Variator nut coming loose and the fan destroying the internals Mouse, crucially including stripping the splines on the drive shaft necessitating an engine split to replace it.  Beyond my home mechanic skills.

I have to say, much as I liked the X-Town, the DTX360 is proving to be a worthy replacement.

I think the DTX360 is a cool bike, a decent evolution of the DT350.