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CELP codes
« on: October 22, 2023, 07:43:45 PM »
Does anyone know what code 66 represents? I ran the self diagnostics on the bike and it kicked out a '66'....I can't find that anywhere in my repair manual.

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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2023, 07:55:34 PM »
Had such a feeling...
(pls see pic for code 66..)
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2023, 08:26:31 PM »
Had such a feeling...
(pls see pic for code 66..)

Thank you Ruffus. I did find that page of codes and reset procedure after all....Thanks!

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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2023, 05:44:00 AM »
You can download the entire Service repair manual here: https://kymco.at/pub/media/Download/Kymco/NEWDowntown350iABS.pdf

Code 66 refers to the Crankshaft Position Sensor, which is located on the right side of the engine, just where the wires insert into the round crankcase cover on the top. If this is faulty then the bike won't be able to start most or all of the time.
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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2023, 01:48:35 PM »
OK Guys, it's educate Neil time.  I think I know what you're referring to when you're talking about CELP Codes here, but what does CELP stand for?  I even went to the trouble of googling motorcycling acronyms, but the so called comprehensive list, wasn't!:

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Acronym   Meaning
ABS   Anti-lock or Anti-skid Braking System
ACC   Active or Adaptive Cruise Control
ADV   Adventure (not really an acronym)
ATGATT   “All The Gear, All The Time”
BS (BSIV, BSVI)   Bharat Stage
BSD   Blind Spot Detection
CAS or CPS   Crankshaft Angle Sensor / Crankshaft Position Sensor
CC or CI   Cubic Centimetres / Cubic Inches
CV   Cavalli Vapore, or Caballos Vapore (metric horsepower)
DOT   Department of Transport
DCT   Dual Clutch Transmission, a kind of Honda automatic transmission
DRL (or DRLs)   Daytime Running Lights
DTC   Diagnostic Trouble Codes
ECU/ECM   Engine / Electronic Control Unit
EFI or i.e.   Electronic Fuel Injection, Iniezione Elettronica
FCW (system)   Forward Collision Warning
Ft-Lb (or lb-ft)   Foot-pound or pound-foot
hp, bhp, and rwhp   Horsepower, brake horsepower, rear wheel horsepower.
I4   Inline Four
IMU   Inertia Measurement Unit
kW   Kilowatt, a metric measure of power
LCD   Liquid Crystal Display
LED   Light-Emitting Diode
Nm   Newton-metre, a metric unit of torque
OBD/OBDII   On-Board Diagnostics
ODO   Odometer (not really an acronym, you can write “Odo”)
OEM   Original Equipment Manufacturer, i.e. made in-house
OHC or DOHC   Overhead Cam or Dual Overhead Cam
PS   Pferdestärke, “Horse Power” in German, the metric unit.
PSI   Pounds per Square Inch, a measure of pressure
RbW   Ride-by-Wire
RPM   Revolutions per minute
RSU   Rear Suspension Unit, referring to a shock
SAE   Society of Automotive Engineers, a standard-setting body
TCS   Traction Control System
TDC   Top Dead Centre
TFT   Thin-Film-Transistor, a type of display
TPS   Throttle Position Sensor
TPMS   Tire Pressure Monitoring System
UJM   Universal Japanese Motorcycle.
USD (Forks)   Upside Down (forks)
WOT   Wide Open Throttle.
Regards & ride safe,
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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2023, 02:30:42 PM »
OK Guys, stand at ease.  I've found it after a bit more searching:

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FUEL SYSTEM (Auto Control Fuel Injection System)

CHECK ENGINE LAMP (CELP)
When turning on the switch, the lamp will
be lighted for 2 seconds then off. Let user
to know the lamp is available and connect
to ECU.

Something I'd always thought of as the Engine Management Warning Light (EMWL?)  Must update my terminology.
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Neil

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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2023, 06:46:57 PM »
👍😂, thanks alot Neil
but, ahem... this CPS is still not in it...😅
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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2023, 07:56:36 PM »
👍😂, thanks alot Neil
but, ahem... this CPS is still not in it...😅
sorry ,mea culpa, missed it...
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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2023, 08:26:38 AM »
Regards & ride safe,
Neil

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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2023, 05:16:10 PM »
a couple more come to mind...

FNG
FTA
SNAFU
FUBAR
REMF
LP
VC
RPG
PRIC-25
F-4
CIB
CMB
C.O.
POW
ARVN (also, MARVN)
PTA
MP
BMP (banana version of above)
RTO
FSB
NDP
P38
AO
ATC
BDA
BNR
WIA
FAC
MARS
MPC
NCOIC
OIC
SOG
RTB
WINCHESTER
DIME
SCW
WP
BINGO
BUFF

and the all important DEROS


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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2023, 08:25:55 PM »
You can download the entire Service repair manual here: https://kymco.at/pub/media/Download/Kymco/NEWDowntown350iABS.pdf

Code 66 refers to the Crankshaft Position Sensor, which is located on the right side of the engine, just where the wires insert into the round crankcase cover on the top. If this is faulty then the bike won't be able to start most or all of the time.

If that is the case then why is mine starting and running without any problems? Are we saying eventually something with the crank is going to happen, go bad? I am under the impression that if a CPS (crank position sensor) goes bad it wont start but mine is doing fine...Hmmmm!

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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2023, 08:48:08 PM »
If that is the case then why is mine starting and running without any problems? Are we saying eventually something with the crank is going to happen, go bad? I am under the impression that if a CPS (crank position sensor) goes bad it wont start but mine is doing fine...Hmmmm!

Any code which shows up either in "blinks" or on an diagtool in a combination of letters and figures indicates a certain "module" or area where a malfunction has happened (past tense).

Does not say directly with 100% accuracy "this sensor is worn out, change it".
Gives you only a hint where to start your search.

So if code/ blink appears, could be a piece of metal pinched, a cable intermittingly shorting, a connector to this CPS rotten.
If your CPS definitely is done, NO START at all.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2023, 08:49:49 PM by Ruffus »
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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2023, 06:55:41 AM »
a couple more come to mind...

FNG
FTA
SNAFU
FUBAR
REMF
LP
VC
RPG
PRIC-25
F-4
CIB
CMB
C.O.
POW
ARVN (also, MARVN)
PTA
MP
BMP (banana version of above)
RTO
FSB
NDP
P38
AO
ATC
BDA
BNR
WIA
FAC
MARS
MPC
NCOIC
OIC
SOG
RTB
WINCHESTER
DIME
SCW
WP
BINGO
BUFF

and the all important DEROS


Stig

Can’t believe that you forgot “SNAFU”!
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2023, 12:43:59 PM »
Can’t believe that you forgot “SNAFU”!
Finish your tea, put your 'readers' on and ......3rd from the top.
The first five all have something in common.
Stig
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 12:46:18 PM by Stig / Major Tom »
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Re: CELP codes
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2023, 06:53:08 AM »
Finish your tea, put your 'readers' on and ......3rd from the top.
The first five all have something in common.
Stig

Oops!  Probably only started checking halfway down! Attention to detail not my long suit clearly!
Regards & ride safe,
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