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tire 1, me 0
« on: June 17, 2024, 09:54:01 PM »
my Helix front tire developed a slow leak around the bead late last summer. It will go from full to flat in 5-7 days. I can air it up and ride same day with no problems but it still makes me a bit nervous, that's why I have put very few miles on it, lately.

Rather than give my local motorcycle shop another $125 USD for this I thought I'd give it a go. I pulled the front wheel, removed the valve stem core, broke the bead by squeezing with C clamps...and then proceeded to clean the tire and the wheel where the bead is. I even sanded inside the rim where there appeared to be some corrosion. Got it all cleaned up, aired it back up....sprayed with soapy water....and still had bubbles...sigh.....less bubbles than before, but still bubbles.

So I'll take the wheel in to my shop, pay their hefty fee and hope they can work some additional magic to seal up the tire.  At least I tried.
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Re: tire 1, me 0
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2024, 10:55:54 PM »
I had to use bead seal when I went darkside on my V-Strom
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2024, 02:54:07 AM »
Any chance your modern tires bead is not compatible with the wheel of your older scooter?

Just a guess...
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Re: tire 1, me 0
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2024, 01:44:36 PM »
Any chance your modern tires bead is not compatible with the wheel of your older scooter?

I don't think that's an issue..lots of modern tires on old rims in the biking world. It did hold air for 2 years. Dirt and crud gets in the bead area, rims can corrode a bit...I'd hoped a good cleaning / sanding would cure the problem...but it didn't.
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Re: tire 1, me 0
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2024, 02:01:05 PM »
hawk, same old story here sometimes.

This inner bead has to be sanded, primed and painted yo be airtight.
Drove me nuts lately several times.
Do it now in a big lathe (alu rims) and steel rims are to be renewed when hefty corroded.
Or the whole nine yards with filler, sanding and psinting.
Then use amounts of liquid kitchensoap to mount.
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: tire 1, me 0
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2024, 01:37:36 PM »
an update...tire is holding air well enough that I don't feel the need to have the tire remounted at the shop. It might drop a few psi in a week to 10 days, but not enough that it will prevent me from riding. I check air pressures and air up (if needed) before every ride. So maybe the new title of this thread should be tire 1 / me .75?
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2024, 01:50:26 PM »
For such a meticulous mechanic - that's quite a compromise!

I finally quit tearing the garage apart - looking for the 13mm socket that rolled away. (to Mars apparently)
But it got ugly there for a while......




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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2024, 08:27:06 PM »
That’s Joe Cocker yeah Stig?
Regards & ride safe,
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2024, 10:29:49 PM »
That’s Joe Cocker yeah Stig?
With a little help from the Queen :)



if your grandkids are having trouble going off to sleep....try it!

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2024, 06:53:16 AM »
Wow! Not seen/heard that performance before Stig, thank you - and Phil Collins on drums!  One of the very few cases of a cover that was way better than the original.
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