returning rider after 23 year spell what was i thinking?

[old geezer]

The three dealers around here rate them above average. They say they have very few problems from the ones they have sold. I don't have the failure rates world wide for Kymco. I don't believe any one does. Most would just be familiar with what is happening in their small portion of the universe.

Don't know if one small statistical distribution in one location could predict the overall outcome in the total population. There could possibly be too many variables at work.

[axy]

The three dealers around here rate them above average. They say they have very few problems from the ones they have sold. I don't have the failure rates world wide for Kymco. I don't believe any one does. Most would just be familiar with what is happening in their small portion of the universe.

Don't know if one small statistical distribution in one location could predict the overall outcome in the total population. There could possibly be too many variables at work.

In most cases and especially in USA, scooters are "leisure vehicles" or "something for fun", more of an "oddity", than vehicle that is used daily.

Only when you drive it as a primary vehicle, and own a number of them over a longer period of time, you can truly see what is their build quality... and of course it is better than anonymous Chinese crap, but it is substandard nevertheless...

I said this many times and will repeat again, some solace can be found in fact that nowadays I have no idea what "good quality" scooter brand would be, especially for these little scoots and <500 cc. Pretty much all are made of cheapest components available and they are not made to be durable, but to be replaced every two years as design and marketing paradigms shift.

[OLDRIDER]

Welcome back to riding. I was 50 years between rides and now ride every day. Good luck and enjoy.

[petertucky]

I am afraid I disagree on Kymco good. My People S 125 has been perfect. Haven't done anything but oil and tires. This is the fourth season and it has 30,200 K on it now. I hope the DT300i I am picking up at noon will be as good.

I agree with you.  By "Kymco Good" I meant that I think they are a step above, and Urals are trying to catch up to Kymco quality.  I look at mine and think even the little things, like the quality of the hoses, fit and finish, wheels, are all quite nice.  My motor hums, and with the fuel injection it is start and go.

Admittedly, mine is a leisure machine, and I have not had it long.  But I wouldn't have bought it if I thought it were lesser than a Yamaha or Honda.

[scootinChris]

Ok, I'm not there yet. I'm seriously considering getting a DT300i though.
It's been already 24 yrs since I rode a bike....   

I'm just a bit concerned with all those texting and chatting id10Ts on the road now.
It's illeagal now, but there are still too many not abiding the law.

I'm doing my homework now and figuring out where to find the proper training.
For I'm sure wanting to relearn and be safe. I have now still dependents and love life too much to be a fool. It's one of the reasons I'm opting for a scoot.

Thanks for letting me hang around an learn. 

Have Fun!

[mrpackerguy]

In most cases and especially in USA, scooters are "leisure vehicles" or "something for fun", more of an "oddity", than vehicle that is used daily.

Only when you drive it as a primary vehicle, and own a number of them over a longer period of time, you can truly see what is their build quality... and of course it is better than anonymous Chinese crap, but it is substandard nevertheless...

I said this many times and will repeat again, some solace can be found in fact that nowadays I have no idea what "good quality" scooter brand would be, especially for these little scoots and <500 cc. Pretty much all are made of cheapest components available and they are not made to be durable, but to be replaced every two years as design and marketing paradigms shift.

When I decided I wanted a used scooter to get around my Madison, WI suburb, I went to a couple scooter stores.  I learned there is obvious Chinese junk and there are more reliable Chinese brands.  The way I understand it, is some scooter brands are easier to repair and have less overall problems, other Chinese brands you either can't get parts for, or break down more frequently.  There's I think 6 scooter stores In Madison, a big college town where scooters seem to outnumber bicycles.  After talking to the store I eventually bought mine from, I was convinced and went with the Kymco brand.  This particular store only carries Kyco and Genuine for these very reasons, though he will work on Yamaha, Honda and a few other more well known brands.  Take this for what it's worth.