Dr Pulley 20x12 14GR

[Cortez]

Again, thanks for the info, you've helped a few people outside this forum too, I've linked it
all over the place on our local forums for other DT owners and a few of them have ordered
14g pulleys since.

I'll wait for you to get 15g ones next.. 
You KNOW you want to!

[TANWare]

You ALL are welcome. I see the jest's and know well of what you all speak. I too was drug into the rabbit hole and those 15GR sliders are calling out to me. I haven't yet primarily as I want to give the 14GR's a full run. Before I go with them though I want a top case and some time to lug around some extra weight for a while first................

[Cortez]

You ALL are welcome. I see the jest's and know well of what you all speak. I too was drug into the rabbit hole and those 15GR sliders are calling out to me. I haven't yet primarily as I want to give the 14GR's a full run. Before I go with them though I want a top case and some time to lug around some extra weight for a while first................

Well chop chop then, we can't wait forever, dammit!
 

[duesouth]

Just ordered the 14's. Maybe I'll try the 15's in a while. Now that I've been set on the path, there is no turning back. I swore I wouldn't touch the bike. On my last scoot I did CVT mods so much I could change out rollers, belts, springs, clutch, in any combo in about 15 mins. I even combined rollers of different weights to get the right feel....Hmmm.?.?.Must, fight, temptation......

[TANWare]

Just ordered the 14's. Maybe I'll try the 15's in a while. Now that I've been set on the path, there is no turning back. I swore I wouldn't touch the bike. On my last scoot I did CVT mods so much I could change out rollers, belts, springs, clutch, in any combo in about 15 mins. I even combined rollers of different weights to get the right feel....Hmmm.?.?.Must, fight, temptation......

I am sure you will love the 14GR. Before deciding on the sliders you have to ride the bike for a while and determine what you want. If you are happy with the top end then the 14GR is your ticket for better acceleration and weight hauling capability. If you want just a bit more top end the 15 GR is your ticket with slightly better acceleration and weight capability.

Now if you run into altitudes I'd stay away from the 15's as power is usually reduced so top end most likely will not get improved, better acceleration for available power output is the best ticket.................

[juanpauk]

Hi all,

I know this might be a long shot but I am struggling to find the correct rollers for my Downtown 300.
My scooter comes with the “new” pulley reference: LGE5 which by looking at some pictures on the Spanish forum is slightly different, the rollers have less space to roll . The reference for the “old” one is LEA7. Also the pulley on my scooter is date March 2011
I would like to ask if anyone here has installed the Dr. Pulley rollers 20x12x14 on the new pulley?
I have measure the rollers that came with the scooter and the dimensions are the same, the weight is 15g.

Thanks, Juan

here is a link to the forum I refer to, about mid page you can see them both
http://forokymco.es/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=123&id=39495&Itemid=0#39495

[TANWare]

Kind of hard to follow the thread as I don't speak spanish and the translator has its errors. but from what I get.

My bike is LEA7-E01 and of course a non ABS USA version. I am assuming this is the SK 300i not the SD. From what I can see then we have the 29.5 HP version not the 32 HP version which appears to be the SD (Super Dink) 300i and more than likely has to do with USA emissions and California carb. I am not sure if this then also means, with less emission restrictions, the international ABS version gets the higher powered motor and since also ABS get a CVT variation...................

[juanpauk]

Hi TANWare thanks for your reply,

The Downtown 300i is the same Super Dink 300i (in Spain), Dink Street 300i (Germany) and Nikita 300i (Taiwan)... As you mentioned because of emissions restrictions the HP varies and some minor cosmetic differences.

My bike has the stamp LEA7 on all parts but the Pulley, from what I know Kymco changed the pulley on the 2011 models to address the high vibrations on low revs. If your bike comes with the warning lights yellow button on the right hand you have a 2011 (for UK). Not sure how it works in the States, from what I have seen you guys have the indicator lights on your mirrors, we have them on the  top corner of the headlights.

The thread was just to reference the difference between the old and new pulleys. I live in the UK so I own a Downtown like everyone here.

For the time being I might have to go for the Malossi rollers with same dimensions and weight (20x12x15g) to the original ones just to be on the safe side.

TAnWare, did you by any chance measured your original rollers?

Thnaks, Juan

[Cortez]

I am not sure if this then also means, with less emission restrictions, the international ABS version gets the higher powered motor and since also ABS get a CVT variation...................

We (mid EU/Croatia) get with 30hp (that's what the importer says), ABS or no ABS, same thing.

[TANWare]

per the manual they are 23x12 15.5GR, Sevicable at 22.5x12. I haven't measured but can tell you the DR pulley's work fine. I do have a USA version 2011 but sine I hadn't done the rollers I can't say about the variator part numbers.

While yes it would be nice to see 32.0 over 29.5 HP when would I ever use it? Other than my tests I never go WOT nor am I at the required 8,500 RPM and WOT to use the total available power. Maybe instead of 92 MPH or so top speed I'd see 95 MPH top end, I never need that either. So in the end the power is a non issue for me.

Now not being able to use other rollers would be a concern. 2012 models for the USA may then have an issue too if Kymco changes the variator. Now this would be a concern as I was thinking of getting a 2012 model too so that I'd have two bikes, one for me and the kids. My kids are no light weights either so the DR Pulleys would be a must for two up riding (daughter and husband)..............

[duesouth]

Okay, so I purchased them and installed 14GR sliders and have been riding on them a few days. TANware is right on, not that I doubted, which is why I bought them. The bike generally feels a tad more responsive, noticeable acceleration through the mid range, and less vibration when cruising over 70. Acceleration over 70 feels about the same to me. I haven't tired taking a mountain grade at 80, so no idea how that's affected. At slower speeds it feels a tad more revved up. If most of your driving is at slower speeds and you like a more leisurely drive around down, don't bother. Overall, I'm happy I did it and found I got use the the differences real quick and am loving that mid range acceleration. Now if I could do something about that seat, or rather the leg room, really not comfortable for me after about an hour.

[TANWare]

Right, top end is only effected very slightly. it does let us get to top RPM easier but at that speed we are already fighting the big resistance, air drag. Since the bike is so highly pre-loaded only a huge increase of power would really be noticable. Where these really shine is mid range and rollon at lower speeds up to about 60 MPH or so.

I am glad to hear you are enjoying the rollers. I am also glad my infomation has helped you to make an informed decission. That is what these forums are all about.................

[de-dee]

thank you for your input on the dt. 300i  who is your supply for roller sliders  & how much are they, many thanks for the info de dee golden hawk 10,000 km. still luven it

[TANWare]

I got mine off e-bay. There was a guy offereing custom weights there too for $40 USD but don't see him there with them any more.

[TANWare]

Finally did a two up again running 460 LBS total on the seat. Well the rollers made it a much more pleasant experience. The RPM's are noticably higher and acceleration is compromised but it is now doable. I wouldn't want to run interstate speeds for an extended period though.............