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Is it ok to use synthetic oil in my Agility?The dealer says no.

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synthetic oil
« on: July 31, 2011, 11:10:52 PM »
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 10:41:17 AM »
After 1000 k it is absolutely ok. Ive ran amsoil 10w40 in mine form break in and have over 17,000 on mine.

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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 04:29:27 PM »
Is it ok? Sure.
Necessary? No.
Any benefits? Probably not.
Bad points? You're wasting money.
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 05:39:41 PM »
Is it ok? Sure.
Necessary? No.
Any benefits? Probably not.
Bad points? You're wasting money.


THIS SHOULD BE INSTEAD OF BANNER ON THE INITIAL PAGE.

I will scream from the top of my lungs next time somebody starts a thread about synthetic oil on this forum... or mentions "miracuolous" Sea Foam...
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 06:40:25 PM »
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 06:42:27 PM »
I can understand the need for fully synthetic oil in a 600cc supersport that revs to 16.000rpms..
but for example, Kawasaki recommends MINERAL OIL for my bike, the 2007 ER6F, a 650cc twin
with 72hp with a 11000rpm red-line (!).. so.. that's exactly what I use, Motul 5100 15W50.
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 10:47:33 AM »
This forum is for starting threads! Synthetic oil is not bs nor is it overkill no matter what engine you have. Plus you can run it alot longer sothe more money factor in my opinion is not true. Die Hard AMSOIL fan in everything i own.

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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 01:26:40 PM »
This forum is for starting threads! Synthetic oil is not bs nor is it overkill no matter what engine you have. Plus you can run it alot longer sothe more money factor in my opinion is not true. Die Hard AMSOIL fan in everything i own.

Religion is a matter of personal conviction.

Yes, Amsoil synthetic oil is derived from special oil and virgin oil wells where angels fly around and play flutes...
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 01:31:38 PM »
This forum is for starting threads! Synthetic oil is not bs nor is it overkill no matter what engine you have. Plus you can run it alot longer sothe more money factor in my opinion is not true. Die Hard AMSOIL fan in everything i own.

From what I've read during the years.. synthetic oil can be WORSE then plain old mineral in some engine
types. It's not even remotely that simple.
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011, 01:32:29 PM »
Religion is a matter of personal conviction.

You probably wanted to say 'lack of education', but I'll let this one slide.
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2011, 04:23:52 PM »
Simple here, I use the same synthetic oil in my truck and my 2 bikes. I just buy 4.5 liter jugs, why use anything different then you use in your car or truck? 
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2011, 04:32:03 PM »
Simple here, I use the same synthetic oil in my truck and my 2 bikes. I just buy 4.5 liter jugs, why use anything different then you use in your car or truck? 

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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2011, 08:14:06 PM »
The two things synthetic oil is better at is longevity and heat tolerance.  Since the Agility 125 does not have an oil filter we cannot take advantage of the longevity synthetic oil provides because we have to change the oil to get rid of the solids a filer could remove.  With an air cooled engine the heat tolerance can come into play depending upon your local climate.  I’m in Texas and its 107 F today so yes I can benefit from synthetic oil.  Long term test have shown there is no benefit to changing your oil more frequently than the manufacturer recommends.  This last bit is going to inflame some folks but it’s been proven in extensive studies, the most notable one done by Consumers Union.
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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 10:50:13 AM »
Ive had nothing but good out of syn oil. I dont know if i would use the same oil in my car than i do in my bikes. Now my scoot doesnt call for jaso-ma specific oil but my motorcycles do. I assume when you say bike you are refering to a scooter. auto oil is too slick for motorcycles wet clutch set up. i havnt saw any scooters yet that cant run on regular auto oil but i just like what amsoil offers so i use it. My harley runs almost 100 degrees cooler with amsoil. Yes i have a temp reading dipstick.

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Re: synthetic oil
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2011, 08:32:47 PM »
That is correct, only wet clutch motorcycles require special motorcycle oil.  For dry clutch bikes (like CVT scooters) the correct SAE viscosity motor oil is fine.
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