your right mack, the super 8 would be the way to go over the s200. they rounded the cc's off up to 200 and it is only 163 cc. and a much higher price tag for larger wheels, 16 vs 14.. A local dealer here has a leftover sym hd200,09 for the same price as a super8. the sym 200 will run rings around the super8 but it is still an 09.