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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2009, 07:37:22 AM »
I am quite satisfied with OEM Kendas on People S250, including handling on wet and slippery road.

I can only tell that if You try pirelli diablo scooter You will realize what I am talking about. Kendas are like plastic. You can not even compare kenda, maxxis with pirelli or bridgestone. I prefer pirelli because diablo scooter series are more round.

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2009, 08:59:41 AM »
I can only tell that if You try pirelli diablo scooter You will realize what I am talking about. Kendas are like plastic. You can not even compare kenda, maxxis with pirelli or bridgestone. I prefer pirelli because diablo scooter series are more round.

I have never driven a scooter with Pirelli Diablo so really cannot compare. Yet, I am a person that drives 365 days in a year, including winter, heavy rain, night, snow and even ice a few times and it is my opinion that Kenda tire I have on People 250 S is an average touring tire.

Also, I prefer to compare models of tires, not manufacturers and critical for me is how the tire behaves on slippery road and in heavy rain (every day on my way to work I have to cover 13 kms of downhill/uphill twisty and slippery road with bad irrigation and literally rivers of water running downstream so it is crucial for me to have tires with good rain-handling - this is also why I replace tires when they are at most half way through).

OEM tire on Agility 125 is also quite good but it is a shame I cannot remember the brand (it is not Kenda).

Slovenian company Sava ( http://www.sava.si/eng/ ) makes excellent and inexpensive performance tires for scooters, from 10 inch up and I have been using their products for years on my scooters as replacement. I hear they were exporting tires to USA too and have also some products in the sports range. I recommend those tires, provided they can be purchased in your country(ies).

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2009, 10:39:46 AM »

Slovenian company Sava ( http://www.sava.si/eng/ ) makes excellent and inexpensive performance tires for scooters, from 10 inch up and I have been using their products for years on my scooters as replacement. I hear they were exporting tires to USA too and have also some products in the sports range. I recommend those tires, provided they can be purchased in your country(ies).


Sava  ;D tires are nothing but average. If You are driving fast and dynamic than You will see. Sava and kenda on 500 cc scooter... hmmm. Pirelli is a little expensive... You have to pay for quality. Take a look on piagio and gilera scooters. They all come with pirelli. Suzuki and yamaha with bridgestone.  ;)

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2009, 01:26:46 PM »
I throw "Heidenau" into the game.
A small saxony company specialized in in tires for scooters up to medium motorcycles. Nothing for >200kph, nothing for "cars on 2 wheels".
In Heidenaus field of activity the german scooter drivers consider them beeing superior even to Michelin or Bridgestone.
Very expensive, but best grip and durability.

I threw away the Maxxis in the early beginning, they where just unsafe on cold wet roads.
Now I went about 13000km with Heidenau K64 rear (+ K66 front) and they still look good for at least another 10000km.

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2009, 02:46:54 PM »
Sava  ;D tires are nothing but average. If You are driving fast and dynamic than You will see. Sava and kenda on 500 cc scooter... hmmm. Pirelli is a little expensive... You have to pay for quality. Take a look on piagio and gilera scooters. They all come with pirelli. Suzuki and yamaha with bridgestone.  ;)

Perhaps I do not drive dynamic enough :) but if it is OK for racing drivers, it is OK for me too:

http://www.savatech.eu/sava-racing/racing-products.html
http://www.savatech.eu/sava-racing/racing-products.html

Notice that they have also slicks for scooters.

Right now I have OEM Kenda on People 250S and Sava MC 16 on NRG 50 cc and I had Monsum on my Beverly 200.

You will notice that "big" manufacturers usually put as OEM tires "big names". Btw. Suzuki and Yamaha also sometimes use Dunlop, Metzeler and some other tires.

p.s. Trivia: Sava is a river that goes through Slovenia and Croatia.
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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2009, 05:58:59 PM »
I am from montenegro and they are my neighbours. Sava also goes trough serbia. I dont know why do You like so much OEM products. You want to tell me that sava is better tire than michelin, bridgestrone and pirelli??? Here in montenegro, no one is buying sava. Also do
You expect from savatech to tell You that their tires are bad? ;-) Ask someone for a real xperience. I have a friend with the same opinion as Yours and he is fanatic (very dynamic driver) for motobikes but he was on the ground, just because of that type tires, for 3 times so far. If You like so much that tires than good luck. ;-)

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2009, 09:40:36 PM »
I am from montenegro and they are my neighbours. Sava also goes trough serbia. I dont know why do You like so much OEM products. You want to tell me that sava is better tire than michelin, bridgestrone and pirelli??? Here in montenegro, no one is buying sava. Also do
You expect from savatech to tell You that their tires are bad? ;-) Ask someone for a real xperience. I have a friend with the same opinion as Yours and he is fanatic (very dynamic driver) for motobikes but he was on the ground, just because of that type tires, for 3 times so far. If You like so much that tires than good luck. ;-)

It is strange that you do not trust me that I had Sava tires (MC12, MC16, MC18) on my scooters and was very happy with them. My experience does not count for some reason?

I would not say that your friend fell off the scooter just because of tires. Anyway, even if he did, maybe he should have learned the first time and not retry twice more.

Maybe in Montenegro nobody is buying them but where I live they are highly regarded.

Btw. I can name several Pirelli tire models that are pure rubbish. Ditto for Michelin and Bridgestone for example.
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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2009, 05:39:06 AM »
It is strange that you do not trust me that I had Sava tires (MC12, MC16, MC18) on my scooters and was very happy with them. My experience does not count for some reason?


Oh no. I trust You but still You have to try something better. ;)

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2009, 09:39:50 AM »
Oh no. I trust You but still You have to try something better. ;)

Pa boga mu, gorski sokole, kakve vi to gume po Crnoj Gori trebate i kako se ti skuteri voze, kao GSXRovi u stock klasi na euro Grand Prixu? :)

p.s. Sorry to others, internal stuff. >:)
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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2009, 03:13:03 PM »
Pa boga mu, gorski sokole, kakve vi to gume po Crnoj Gori trebate i kako se ti skuteri voze, kao GSXRovi u stock klasi na euro Grand Prixu? :)

p.s. Sorry to others, internal stuff. >:)

hahahahahaha

A dobar si. Paaa... dinamicno. :D Uzmi u obzir da je to manji tocak nego sto ima GSXR i da ce lakse proklizati. Ma sve ok samo, brate, SAVA, KENDA, MAXXIS ... pa dje nadje 3 najgora brenda za gume? To x puta ljudi bace kad kupe nov skuter. :D Da se ne ljute drugi pa dalje da pisemo en.

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2009, 04:22:22 PM »
:) Take a look at http://www.firma.hr/ , this is where I order my tires online.
They usually deliver to my door within a day. So far I have placed four orders.
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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2010, 05:52:29 PM »
changed both front and rear tire this january. front tire almost 20% left with just 3,500km plus :o :o rear with 50% left. both are Pireli GTS
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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2010, 03:08:38 AM »
my EOM Kenda rear tyre is being replaced at 24000klm as it is breaking up at each tread all around the circumference A Pirelli Pilot Sport is going on ;D

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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2010, 07:30:26 PM »
An interesting fact about the Kenda, The compound is not fuel proof! They swell like baloons form the petrolium on the road surface alone. Mine also was self destructing after just a couple hundred miles. It developed a bounce within 60-80miles, and just grew worse.
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Re: X500 tire wear
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2010, 07:51:51 PM »
My '07 Xciting had about 4000 miles on it when I bought it and the rear tire was just about worn out.  Maxxis on front and rear.  I've put another 1000 miles on it and now it's really ready to replace.  From the looks of the rim, it's been off at least once, possibly to repair a puncture? 

Have looked at a number of tires online, particularly at Motorcycle Superstore.  I'm actually thinking of trying the Shinko SR 568R rear and the SR 567F front tires since they're quite inexpensive.  $41.99 and $35.99 with free shipping for a total of about 78 bucks for both.

Any opinions anyone?

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