Clutch problem or something else?

[Cortez]

Stock weight should be 14gr.
I'd put 13gr Dr Pulley sliders in there.

[dBuster2009]

.msg73722#msg73722 date=1340550901]
Stock weight should be 14gr.
I'd put 13gr Dr Pulley sliders in there.

so would you say go with something like this?

Dr pulley 18x14 13gram].msg73722#msg73722 date=1340550901]
Stock weight should be 14gr.
I'd put 13gr Dr Pulley sliders in there.
[/quote]

so would you say go with something like this?

Dr pulley 18x14 13gram

[Cortez]

Yeah.

I went from 14 rollers to 13gr rollers and lost about 6mph from the top speed, but the
bike accelerated a lot faster, which was great around town, especially considering I
almost never went over 50mph indicated, and the fuel consumption went up.

Dr Pulley sliders should take care of those high revs at the top, it will rev even less
then with original 14gr weights.

I never tried it though, maybe even 12gr would work great, you could be looking at
loosing some top speed with the 13gr.

10% lighter sliders vs stock rollers is the recommended starting point by Dr Pulley guys and
it works great in my Downtown 300 (went from 15.5 to 14, but probably should have gone
with 13-13,5).

[dBuster2009]

I do not want to lose top end if at all possible. i have a stretch where i can open it up and push the max.  but if it is recommended to go with the ones in the link i posted i will do that. now if i can keep from losing mph i am in like flynn!!!

so do i order those Dr pulley slides i linked to? good or bad?

not sure what the 18x14 means though...

[Cortez]

I do not want to lose top end if at all possible. i have a stretch where i can open it up and push the max.  but if it is recommended to go with the ones in the link i posted i will do that. now if i can keep from losing mph i am in like flynn!!!

so do i order those Dr pulley slides i linked to? good or bad?

not sure what the 18x14 means though...

18x14 is the size, and that's the correct size for your scoot.

Regarding the top speed.

If you're lucky, the 10% decrease in weight going from rollers to sliders SHOULD
result in same top speed at lower revs. Lower revs mean less power available in
the top gear ratio so an incline can result in a lower top speed after all. In some
situations the bike CAN push a bit more so you get an even higher top speed.

On a downhill slope you'll definitely go faster, but everything above 50mph is
over the suspensions comfort zone, IMHO.

Better acceleration though is a sure thing in this 14 to 13gr swap.

Math says a 10% decrease in weight is actually closer to 12.5gr weights.
You can mix a set of 12s and 13s to get that, and actually have a spare
set, or possibility to try only 12 and only 13 and see which ones you like better.

Considering the price, that's what I'd do.

[Cortez]

This may help:

[dBuster2009]

So it is solved then.  I am ordering a set of 12's and a set of 13's and I will mix them.

Question on the mixing, I am going to say it is a 50/50 mix equal parts of each one and alternate them in my placement.  Right or wrong?

Thanks a bunch and a million and a half to all that have helped me out so far.

[Cortez]

Yeah, alternate, the CVT has to be balanced.
You're welcome.   

[dBuster2009]

I will update once I receive the new variator fan and sliders which by the way I ordered 12 and 13 gram sliders and will alternate installation. 

Rode this morning to work and the new belt definitely is an improvement but the lurching/launching is still there...  so lets hope the work later this weeks helps it out.

[HueJass]

I'm running 11g sliders, 3-10.8 & 3-12.2. 
NCY trans kit
Malossi belt. 

I can still tuck and do 62-63mph.... or 72 indicated.   

Yes, fuel consumption is higher, get a 50cc if you want better mileage.

[Cortez]

I went from a 2 stroke 50cc to the Agility 125 because of better mileage. 

[dBuster2009]

Okay so this may be a weird question.  But can the belt be put on backwards?

I am asking as when I first get on the bike and for the first few stop and goes the belt slips.  Slips and makes the noise of a slipping belt like on a car.

Could that also be due to my rollers issue and or the broken fins off of the variator fan?

[HueJass]

Should be good, the drive face sometimes has a slightly different angle than the variator.  I accidentally put one on backwards and ran 2K miles on it before noticing it.... ooooops. 

[dBuster2009]

Should be good, the drive face sometimes has a slightly different angle than the variator.  I accidentally put one on backwards and ran 2K miles on it before noticing it.... ooooops. 

so i could have the belt on backwards then??

how does one tell what is the right way to put a belt on? maybe if someone has a photo of the right way might help...

btw the new variator fan arrived and the slides should be here tomorrow!

[zombie]

There is no "backwards". Only Opposite of the direction it came off. If you change the running direction it will re stretch in the new direction 1/2ing the life of the belt. Look at which way it is on the scoot, and replace it the same way. If a particular belt has an arrow... follow that.