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Re: Performance Air Filter?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 10:46:14 PM »
..one factor i forgot, is the driven pulley...


..now, both my agilitys (08 and 09) had unrestricted driven pulleys...

..i can only assume the newer ones are like them, maybe not...

..a 1500 would not be desireable if your scoot's pulleys are restricted...
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Re: Performance Air Filter?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 10:51:17 PM »
I totally agree, well its a close competition with that or fitting a race variator. I was dropping to 20mph on some hills even on 4,5g weightsbut with the 1500rpm i can run up the same hills at 30mph now, a huge improvement and it didnt even cost me any top end speed. I guess if you live in a real flat country then Baddi's theory is correct but for where i live i need to get up hills without cyclists and buses overtaking me, thats embarrassing.

5.5g and 1500rpm spring in good for me, prob the cvt best set up ive had, works well with a stock belt or a longer 736 belt.

What the f***!? (Excuse my french).
Of course you are loosing power up-hill with that kind of roller weight. To give the force to press the 30 kg spring at the maximum effect rpm (7500), 6,5g rollers are neccercary. If you go down in weight, you will have to go up in rpm's to provide the force neccercary, and this takes alot of energy from the engine, which is doesn't have over the 7500 rpm. Therefore your powerloss up hill is in the first place caused by too light rollers, and you try to compensate for that with another spring, instead of just putting in the right roller weights :S

My old agility could easily go 30 mph up hill (and if i wasnt at that speed, it was easy to accellerate up steep hills from standing still, with 2 persons on it) with 6g rollers, malossi multivar and the standart 30 kg spring.
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Re: Performance Air Filter?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 10:55:41 PM »
My old agility could easily go 30 mph up hill


..thats really f***ing slow!!!!


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Re: Performance Air Filter?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2012, 11:00:11 PM »
My old agility could easily go 30 mph up hill


..thats really f***ing slow!!!!


..lmao...excuse my dots!!.....

And he said:
[...]I was dropping to 20mph on some hills even on 4,5g weightsbut with the 1500rpm i can run up the same hills at 30mph now, a huge improvement and it didnt even cost me any top end speed. [...]

So, when your rollers are 2g too light, and you try to compensate for that by putting in another spring, when all you gotta do is put in those 6,5g rollers with the standart spring.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2012, 11:01:28 PM »
YUP! The Debate has landed.
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Re: Performance Air Filter?
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 11:02:46 PM »
YUP! The Debate has landed.

Yeah, zombie is right, mabye we are flying too high. I'll go to bed, its 1 AM here in Denmark, and i have to get up in 5 hours ^^ cya.
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Re: Performance Air Filter?
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 11:03:06 PM »
...i'm serious, baddi...if your regularly droppin to 30....you can do MUCH BETTER!!
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2012, 11:05:24 PM »
...dream sweet baddi!!


...dream of 42 uphill...wake refreshed!!...


                  :-*
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 11:07:12 PM »
It all comes down to how YOU like to ride. I have 9gr, and a 2000 spring with my fly springs stretched to open off idle. It runs like an ape but goes thru belts in about a month. I like low rpm pull (2000 contra/weak fly's), and sustained hi rpm runs (9gr rollers). Balance is the key. Mine is a train wreck but I like it. Every other set up is sub par for me.
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 11:10:17 PM »
..every scoot...and th person onnit is different..yup...


..are there many hills in denmark??

..i gotta google earth...
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2012, 11:15:29 PM »
I think Denmark is one of those under water countries... Like Atlantis. They need more dirt there.
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2012, 11:19:47 PM »
...aaaahhhh...atlantis...


...always wanted to vacation there...

.......imma pisces, ssssoooo....
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2012, 11:27:27 PM »
You'll fit right in. Although they do have a funny accent there.
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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2012, 11:37:25 PM »
...baddi oughtta be posting us pics of th red-light district!!!
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2012, 11:47:24 PM »
OR sending samples from the Other district.
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