Streido's Newbie guide to de-restricting and basic tuning.

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Good job doing this post streid. im sure it well others out.

[streido]

See Baddi this is where our differences come. Over here when i travel to work it is mostly flats and downhills, great fun. Unfortunately on my way home i need to go back up these same hills, not so great. This is why a set up which suits one particular scooter or rider maybe totally unsuitable for another rider, the terrain and weather/climate will make just as much difference as a persons weight etc will.

I dare say if my country was more flat i would run heavier rollers and a lighter spring. Nah, im a liar, i probably wouldnt,  i like the accereration i get on my set up, couldnt go back to heavy rollers now. I find if i keep the revs over 5500rpm then i have plenty torque etc, if it drops below that it becomes too sluggish for my liking.

Each to his own, thats why its important to experiment a little and find what works best for you and your scoot. Think we are both close to our individual ideal set-ups, and look at them, they are completely opposite 

[baddi]

See Baddi this is where our differences come. Over here when i travel to work it is mostly flats and downhills, great fun. Unfortunately on my way home i need to go back up these same hills, not so great. This is why a set up which suits one particular scooter or rider maybe totally unsuitable for another rider, the terrain and weather/climate will make just as much difference as a persons weight etc will.

I dare say if my country was more flat i would run heavier rollers and a lighter spring. Nah, im a liar, i probably wouldnt,  i like the accereration i get on my set up, couldnt go back to heavy rollers now. I find if i keep the revs over 5500rpm then i have plenty torque etc, if it drops below that it becomes too sluggish for my liking.

Each to his own, thats why its important to experiment a little and find what works best for you and your scoot. Think we are both close to our individual ideal set-ups, and look at them, they are completely opposite 

Of course, keep the rpm at +/- 500 of the max effect, or the narrow effect band will leave little power for you
Accually this is the first time i've heard of anyone saying 5500 rpm on a 4-stroke Is it even possible to move forward at that low rpm?

[streido]

 Is it even possible to move forward at that low rpm?

Just about 

My rev counter just packed in this morning due to moisture getting inside so now im riding on instinct 

[baddi]

Just about 

My rev counter just packed in this morning due to moisture getting inside so now im riding on instinct 

I just got to get one of those rev counters
Damn, stuff is getting expensive xD

[baddi]

I wrote this in another topic, but i will also post it here:

Hey guys, i've done alot of thinking about how a contra spring works, and i think that i've figured out what the rpm are for when saying how strong the spring are. 
Perhaps its because the spring will force the variator down in gear faster than the rpm will fall, so the rpm wont fall below 1500 on a 1500rpm spring before it is fully downgeared, and you have stopped. :p

This also matches with what you've been saying about the feeling of more power, as you would start at higher rpm after breaking without stopping. It also matches with what i've been told, that the spring doesn't have any purpose but to keep the belt tight, as the rpm would never fall to the lower limit, as this limit is below idle speed when using the 30kg/800rpm spring.

I'm sorry that i've been a little stupid to listen to, but i think i've fully understood how the spring works now, and it all makes sence.
Also that you've had better speed at hills, as the gearing will be just as low as needed, so you wont be pulling too big a load up hill.

[zombie]

[zombie]

Love ya!

[streido]

I want a wind up monkey doll, and i want one NOW!


Baddi i replied about the contra springs on our other thread since im already losing track of things here and no point posting the same thing twice every time.

I get easily confused these days, some say if you remember the 60's you werent really there? Well im not that old but i dont remember much from the 80's or 90's 

My brain is still in recovery and may never be right again, if it ever was right in the 1st place

[donut]

Great thread.
Where did your source the boss and the #82 main carb jet

[streido]

Any Kymco dealer, ebay or most scooter shops online sell them. I got my boss from Scooter Assassins bit i try not buy there anymore due to delivery times.

[baddi]

Great thread.
Where did your source the boss and the #82 main carb jet

I dont know the law in other countries, but here in Denmark, its just as illegal to change the boss than it is to change the whole variator, so i would recommend the malossi multivar, which comes with a smooth boss, and often gives more accelleration and sometimes top speed.

[Vivo]

I dont know the law in other countries, but here in Denmark, its just as illegal to change the boss than it is to change the whole variator, so i would recommend the malossi multivar, which comes with a smooth boss, and often gives more accelleration and sometimes top speed.

In our country, we will fight any law that will limit our freedom to ride and politicians will be on our side. Why? because lots of people up there are riders too plus they cannot ignore millions of voters, er, riders I mean, here.

[baddi]

In our country, we will fight any law that will limit our freedom to ride and politicians will be on our side. Why? because lots of people up there are riders too plus they cannot ignore millions of voters, er, riders I mean, here.

Here, the majority of scooter riders are below the age of 18, and therefore cant vote. The politicians falsely think that 30 km/h is the safest, and they tell the voters (many who are parents or annoyed by sh**ty scooter drivers). This way, the bills for driving over 30 km/h on a kymco agility 50, which has the same brakes as the kymco agility 200 (which is registered a motorcycle, are bigger than driving 150 on the highway.
Also, second time you or any other user (friend or thief) is caugt on a bike without restrictions, the bike are crashed by the police.

Freedom is something that we have never heard of when talking about scooters in Denmark. So restricted in every little piece of the bike!

[wordslinger]

so i would recommend the malossi multivar, which comes with a smooth boss, and often gives more accelleration and sometimes top speed.

...well, i be damned....


..i was about to say the same thing...