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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2012, 08:04:38 PM »
Actually the west coast where i live is pretty evenly mixed with both catholic and protestant, most of Scotland is. I dont knowthe exact figures but i would maybe give the protestants the slight edge on population overall, its not that wide a gap tho, where i work is probably 50/50. Up north in the Highlands and Islands is more protestant still i guess, some of the small islands are hardcore protestant and wont work on sundays etc, it all closes down for the day, they even complained about ferry and plane services running to their island on a sunday. Prob the same as island near you, they seem pretty backward and stuck in the past, comes from living cut odf from "nirmal" modern life i guess.

Personally i dont speak gaelic at all, i used to know a few words but i forgot them now. We do have Gaelic schools etc tho for those whi want it. Gaelic was never really spoken in Lowland Scotland, it was more a Highland thing, we just spoke Scots, thats a kind of mixture of English, with a gaeoic twist on some words etc, prob why you and others dont understand us  :D If we talk to non Glaswegians we tend to slow down and change how we speak, more English like, but amoungst ourselves when we speak normal Glaswegian/Scots at normal speed you wpuld be pretty lost, like that drunk guy you know  :D

The Scots and Irish have a long history together, were like cousins. Many of our surnames are from Irish decent now and some Irish have Scots surnames from all the population movements in the past. If you know about the troubles in Ireland you will remember the IRA bombing campaign in the 70's-80's where they decided if Britain wasnt going to leave Ireland then theywould start bombing Britain and make them leave. They did loads of attacks but if you notice, not one attack happened in Scotland? Thats because so many Irish grouos relied upon Scottish support,we had and stil do have the catholic side supporting a free-united Ireland and the protestant side supoort the British keeping Northern Ireland British. We have marching bands etc like they do in Ireland for both sides who still parade here every year, its crazy  :-\ In fact the Loyal Orange Order (protestant loyalists) have MORE marches in Scotland than Ireland  :-\ Go figure that one out?
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2012, 08:15:09 PM »
I'm personally not a big fan of religion, but maybe you can tell me what the big beef is between the Catholics and Protestants. It was never explained well if at all in my US schools and if I talk with someone here about it they have a US slant on what the truth is.

It may be too much to get into here but an edited version would help.

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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2012, 08:36:59 PM »
I'm personally not a big fan of religion, but maybe you can tell me what the big beef is between the Catholics and Protestants. It was never explained well if at all in my US schools and if I talk with someone here about it they have a US slant on what the truth is.

It may be too much to get into here but an edited version would help.

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To tell you the truth, i dont know?

Both believe in Jesus etc but dont get on, doesnt make sense to me but im not religious at all either, cant be bothered with it. My mum was catholic and my dad was protestant so i kinda escaped religious teaching since they couldnt agree i guess what to raise me  :-\ Neither of tjem were big on religion really either, my dad maybe was more so than my mum. Luckily i escaped that stuff as a kid.
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 08:42:40 PM »
It was one of those old English kings that forbid catholicism, and started the protestant church. C O E as it's referred to. The Idea was the same as always... an attempt to change the culture, and assimilate its people. All the beliefs are the same it's just some observances that differ.
I don't associate with protestants.
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2012, 08:46:08 PM »
It was one of those old English kings that forbid catholicism, and started the protestant church. C O E as it's referred to. The Idea was the same as always... an attempt to change the culture, and assimilate its people. All the beliefs are the same it's just some observances that differ.
I don't associate with protestants.

I think Zombies got the jist of it there. I seem to remember something about Maybe Henry 8th or someone going for it as catholics couldnt divorce and he was a horny bugger who had loads of wives. I may be wrong tho.
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2012, 08:56:48 PM »
That's the guy. I didn't want to blame the wrong one. He crusaded against all the crunches across England, Scotland, and Whales destroying, and murdering everything/everyone associated with the Catholic church so he could fornicate guilt free. Go figure... It's all about priorities I guess.
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« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2012, 09:04:48 PM »
It was Henry, we were right for once. This tells you a bit about it, we still celebrate Guy Fawkes night every year,  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gunpowder_Plot&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
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« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2012, 09:15:30 PM »
It amazes me England ever got past the sandbox never mind conquering foreign lands. Not to simply insult but every thing they did was based on WRONG (lack of a better word). It is the same still. That so called Prince Charles... What a F'n FOOL! Could have sat comfortable for the rest of his life, and had the opportunity to create soooooo much good in the world, but would rather have his wife murdered so he could have an inbred trolll suck his pee pee. One thing for England... Their priorities have NEVER changed.  F'n inbreds. Let them fall. I'll be first in line for the Pee on England's grave parade.
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2012, 09:41:33 PM »
It amazes me England ever got past the sandbox never mind conquering foreign lands. Not to simply insult but every thing they did was based on WRONG (lack of a better word). It is the same still. That so called Prince Charles... What a F'n FOOL! Could have sat comfortable for the rest of his life, and had the opportunity to create soooooo much good in the world, but would rather have his wife murdered so he could have an inbred trolll suck his pee pee. One thing for England... Their priorities have NEVER changed.  F'n inbreds. Let them fall. I'll be first in line for the Pee on England's grave parade.

Now there is stereotyping for you, inbred's? And I'm the bad guy for posting about Muslims, some of you make me laugh!  ;D
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2012, 09:44:22 PM »
My statement is based on historical fact. not an observation.
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« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2012, 09:58:53 PM »
I think the whole thing was more to do with regaining control of the population from Rome. Henry was a bastard, no doubt,  and he didnt like someone else,especially a foreigner, influencing HIS people so they formed the Church of England so he could tell the people what to do, thro his church of course. I think  :-\

Still dont now the differences tho btween them, different rules i guess different ways of worshipping and services  :-\ Must be like the Sunny and Shia muslm thing. Think most christians in the US are Evangelical now tho? Who knows where that one came from ::)

Not wanting to poke fun at anyones  belief, its all crazy to me  ???

They all profess that only their way is "gods" way, yet none can offer any proof and rely purely on faith. How can they all be right? If they cant then how do you decide which one to choose? Fact is you dont,itsa just whats passed down from your parents or where you where born that decides it. Hardly inspiring to me but each to his own. I got no problem with anyone believing anything as long as they dont expect or force me to believe it if i dont want to  :)
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« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2012, 10:02:40 PM »
I think the whole thing was more to do with regaining control of the population from Rome. Henry was a bastard, no doubt,  and he didnt like someone else,especially a foreigner, influencing HIS people so they formed the Church of England so he could tell the people what to do, thro his church of course. I think  :-\

Still dont now the differences tho btween them, different rules i guess different ways of worshipping and services  :-\ Must be like the Sunny and Shia muslm thing. Think most christians in the US are Evangelical now tho? Who knows where that one came from ::)

Not wanting to poke fun at anyones  belief, its all crazy to me  ???

They all profess that only their way is "gods" way, yet none can offer any proof and rely purely on faith. How can they all be right? If they cant then how do you decide which one to choose? Fact is you dont,itsa just whats passed down from your parents or where you where born that decides it. Hardly inspiring to me but each to his own. I got no problem with anyone believing anything as long as they dont expect or force me to believe it if i dont want to  :)
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2012, 07:39:14 AM »
I'm personally not a big fan of religion, but maybe you can tell me what the big beef is between the Catholics and Protestants. It was never explained well if at all in my US schools and if I talk with someone here about it they have a US slant on what the truth is.

It may be too much to get into here but an edited version would help.

Thanks!


I have studied that topic and to be honest - no major difference. Most of them have to do with 2000 yr old stuff like religious scriptures, ceremonies etc. However, it does not take much for people to start hating each other just because they belong to different "groups". Football fans are the best example.
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Re: Great Britain added to the EU/?
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2012, 08:41:29 AM »
I'm personally not a big fan of religion, but maybe you can tell me what the big beef is between the Catholics and Protestants. It was never explained well if at all in my US schools and if I talk with someone here about it they have a US slant on what the truth is.

It may be too much to get into here but an edited version would help.

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It's an argument on which is the true religion the Protestant Churches or Catholics. Protestants "protested" and denied authority of the Pope and had issues on the catholic doctrine. They believe that the bible is the only authority. Catholics on the other hand believe that authority starts from the Pope and history can prove it. They say that there is a clear line of succession from Jesus to the first Pope, Peter, and up to the present Pope. Anyway, that's just the tip of the iceberg and the battle goes on.

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