Purple Haze....all in my brain

[thebatman]

Well Nina has lower miles but she gots the cvt hook-up...

HEY, this engine is about new now..  
Got 110-120lbs comp too...


Oh, i like the free-flow filters myself.
Did have the oem box on my s9 tho. dam sure helped in rain..
I still have the open filter from my s9, gonna check it out... PLUS them filter help that sweet sound.

[wordslinger]

...i had to mod my needle retainer in nina's oem carb, in order to raise the needle, when i installed the filter...

..ran lean thru mid throttle before that....

[thebatman]

...i had to mod my needle retainer in nina's oem carb, in order to raise the needle, when i installed the filter...

..ran lean thru mid throttle before that....


OOOHHHH Hellllll.... is anybody else hearing those bubbles pop?....  

I did wonder one time today about this one being lean as to the lag.
She has a slck ass shift too.. you can feel it going into "2nd". seems to sliiiide into 2nd?
loses a bit of rpm then but will pick it up. Can feel the torque you speak of in your thread. 1/2 throttle, hit the throttle you can feel more power not just hear the carb.........at this point anyway but to fix the take-off lag and shift it may disappear on me. 

[wordslinger]

..the shift could be slightly heavy rollers...

..dunno about your pipe setup, but i HAD TO raise the oem carb's needle with the filter...
 

[thebatman]

..dunno about your pipe setup, but i HAD TO raise the oem carb's needle with the filter...
technigas next-r



..the shift could be slightly heavy rollers...
Wow, still heavy with 5's... wow.. I cant dam remember how the shift was with the 4.5's.. seems to rev a tad much

[zombie]

That engine is way more efficient than the zx cases so it will need leaner jetting. Just go the next size down, and should have that nailed. Plus like you stated you are @ 2,200 ft. You got this one...

[thebatman]

What's really going on guys?
This a.m i went and installed an open air filter on the Haze. She did not like that at all.  :'(
She bogged down good, wanted to die of kindof. I had the mix screw all over the place, to 3 out, hoping it would correct but wouldn't. I guess that means she is to lean with the open filter. I would have thought i had PLENTY of room to lean out.
I re-installed the box and took her out past my lil 1 red-light town on a real maiden voyage..
I did keep the throttle between 1/2-3/4.... for the most part. I did have a spurt to try it.
At 1/4 throttle she seems to "spit" to much.
I had no problem hitting 10g's with no more than 3/4 as well. I made 2 short vids of pieces of the action.   
I was way impressed with the "OEM" S9. When i done my black s9 it went straight to a used kit.
The cvt isn't right. Wants to drop "gear" at take-off but quickly hits it, has a loooooong, strong, and pulling "2nd"..... when she hits "3rd" there is a slack lag down to about 8g's then back up. The pipe seems to be around 8200ISH. NO problem hitting a 53? indicated today. I put just a hair over 100kms today on her..... Of course i have a BUNCH of hills around here too    ....She had no problem staying in the band with 1/2 throttle.
She has to be close... HAS TO BE..... Where is the key???

I know now that the A.C. frame is 18mm lower, 6mm narrower, and 6mm longer than the L.C. frame.You can tell the difference between the 2. Had no idea till after i got her put together.
Of course i took a cpl more pics today as well on the 1st ride out.




To be so dam ugly that sure is one fine looking scoot..LMAO                  I'll post the vid. Hope it has sound...

[thebatman]

When i leave Mars-Hill i usually have a long ride to asheville. School is 26miles out, my mom's house is 31.5mi. I'm like Word, i rack up the hwy miles..

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[thebatman]

Never mind the last post cept for the milage.. Tried the  other link to try and get rid of one of these that shows everytime i post a vid...IDK...



I know, I know... 1 dam video would have been enough... Having a proud moment here today...             

[thebatman]

  
1 is the video on top,(DUUUHHH, you mean the 1 with the play button?....NOOOOOO sh** Sherlock.    ) the underisde is a link to the vid at photobucket....Dam if i know guys.....

[Shaka]

Nice!  Congrats! 

[thebatman]

Hey Shaka... What's happening?...
Thank you.. It has taken a looooong time to get to this point.
Still need her tuned in... Kindof struck as to it being so rich looking
Really wish i had Word's cvt skills.  She still has a bit more inside there..

Maybe i can get ahold of 1 of wordslingers smaller jets since his is soooooo BIG...

UUUMMMMMM,  That didn't sound QUITE right.   

[Shaka]

Get the carb dialed...then deal with the cvt.  When the cvt is right you shouldn't really feel it "shift".  It should basically hold it rpm (in the powerband) from take off through the cvt until it has maxed out...then the rpm will rise as it accelerates up to the engines max.  I'm running the Next pipe and the powerband seems about 7500.  Mine holds 7500 rpm up to about 55 mph when the rpm's will climb to low to mid 8's with a max speed up to maybe 60 or a little more.  Typically my max rpm on my TTO is 8160.  If I slam the throttle from a stop my rpms stay pretty steady in the mid 7's until about 55 mph.  That's right where I want it, as that's where the pipe makes the most power.  Keep in mind I have reduction gears so my cvt setup will be different.  I'm currently running a Multivar w/ 9g Malossi rollers, oem belt, oem torque drive, Motorio clutch w/ 1500 flys, oem bell, and 1500 contra w/ NCY bearing torsion controller.  I can run about 45 mph at 1/4 throttle or so at 6 - 6500 rpm (clutch just engaged), wrap the throttle open ( jump into the powerband) and nearly pull the front wheel up.  Only thing keeping it down is the upgears and weighting forward. 

[thebatman]

I'm hoping to get the carb dialed. 
At least it's rich.  ... If i am correct, i used like 1.5g of gas to hit those 100-105kms.(the tank is a 1.9g.......or should be anyway ) Seems a bit much for oem. seems like the mpg i was getting with the arreche 19mm and a kit
I have no idea what that would convert to in mpg.

IDK if i like the Malossi green contra.    .........or the dang purple one...(may need to try it again in this engine)
I know the flys are worn on the clutch.(i could pull the shoes out with my fingers). It does have a worn belt. I should have measured it then checked with word cuz im sure he has measured by now..
I should have the springs to help out tho

[Shaka]

That is quite a bit of fuel.  The conversion between miles and kms is ~.65.  I belive the green spring is barely above the white...~1200?  I've got the yellow with the NCY bearing thing that further compresses/preloads it.  I still get a "chirp" out of the cvt when I throttle it hard...I'm not sure if it's the belt or the clutch or what???  I know I need a new clutch bell at some point as mine is pretty worn.  Definitely get some new fly springs if you can pull the shoes by hand!  That is most likely at least one piece of your cvt tuning puzzle.