Purple Haze....all in my brain

[thebatman]

Ok, one more round guys.......

I went out yesterday a.m. and tried one more time..
I installed the NCY 1500...the Gates 748x18x28 (used)
38.10mm boss...oem var w/5.7g rollers
I had the 5.1 in and tyake-off seemed fkn great.. I THOUGHT it was a tad to revvy at TOP, so i installed the 5.7 thinking it'd be ok. The 5.7g falls out of the band pretty easy. take-off is crap again for the initial second then BAM...
I seem to have lost my 3 5g from my tuning kit 
Kind-of stuck atm w/o any other rollers...
I think 5.25-5.5 max would be the ticket here.....
OF COURSE, all that would change with a good jetting.........



I have an idea i wanna run by for opinions.....
IF you was gonna do a engine swap, would you choose the project ride or the more complete, "nicer" ride??

[zombie]

Not sure I understand the question. For all practical purposes I would usually work on the project to test things out.

[thebatman]

IF you was gonna do a engine swap, would you choose the project ride or the more complete, "nicer" ride??

Not sure I understand the question. For all practical purposes I would usually work on the project to test things out.

Well, i'm having a awesome idea. I just sold/swapped that marshin scoot with the mina engine. Got my $ back and a 150 gy6. 
I have this purple haze that i'm working on but as you seen in the pics she still has the whole front to go, plus other pieces. She is the long-term deal...
I have my Black S9 that was kitted. plastics,etc. are in great shape......no engine

Would you use the nicer, complete black frame
OR
the long-term project for the 150 swap?
I originally thought i'd use the black S9, but now im thinking of using the purple since it's less whole

[zombie]

Gottcha!
   I would figure which one had more value as a "restored" scoot. I assume that would be the LC S9. That is the one I would keep as cherry, and original as possible. The other frame is a good choice for spares, and a great KICK ASS project bike.
I would look for a junkyard scoot frame to build up a Ruk style cruiser. (did that). The 9's are too complete, and sought after to butcher IMHO.

[wordslinger]

....i'm confused.......

[thebatman]

Guess what?..
...I'm back with another round of wth..
This carb is oem. The cylinder, seals, etc. is freshly rebuilt oem
Oem Jets
Airbox
Mix @ 1 out
I do have the next-r pipe on it AND the plugs are this black
I have fouled (as of today) 3 plugs and they all are BLACK. Check this out,


This one it looks like i have to much light, it's pretty darn black
Today i actually fouled the newest plug AND started fouling out a used plug OMW home.

I just think it is so crazy wild of this and WORDS Nina's difference on the pipe.
My oil index is correct. The pipe should have leaned it SOME anyway  , not RICHENED to the point of fouling plugs. I installed the open filter and it leaned it so bad i couldn't hardly move, box back on and she was fine. Runs like a M.F..    
Of course not the speed of Nina.. Way off that target range..

ANY ideas WHY it would be, COULD BE, rich?
MAybe hotter? Out of fluid?....nope, i can touch and tank is full
Maybe the 8 plug? need a 9?.. Wouldn't a 9 make it even richer to foul plugs since it can't burn as hot?
I think word is now using a 9 series plug
Word recently had a sputter up to 1/4 as well. I did take the mix down OMW home this eve to 1/2 OUT. I am nervous going below 1 on any.. BUt IT STILL was spitting, sputtering. If it wasnt 1/2 + throttle, she sputtered

[zombie]

I still forget which side your mix screw is on... You are DEF. rich but why!?!.
If the screw is on the engine side, and you are almost closed it is showing the Pilot jet is too rich. Try 1-2 sizes smaller on the pilot. Most likely 2 sizes.

[thebatman]

The oem pj being to big?
Yeah, these have a fuel mix screw (intake side)
TBH, i actually rode 1 mile with it completely closed W/O realizing till the red-light.. She was a lot better too.    That scared the sh** out of me but then i was like wth, it was a bit better then..

Oh yeah, Word made me have a brain fart........
...I wonder if these monster oem engines could take a 70 pipe well? 
I know the kitted s9's LOVE the RS-2.... wwonder if oem would..........

[zombie]

I absolutely believe the OEM jet is too big. Have you up jetted the Main? That could be bleeding over to the PJ, and giving that result. Also a bigger pipe is ALWAYS better. They only rate them so you don't go too small. Your bikes like that 9k rpm, and the Next falls off at 7k.

[thebatman]

I absolutely believe the OEM jet is too big. Have you up jetted the Main? That could be bleeding over to the PJ, and giving that result. Also a bigger pipe is ALWAYS better. They only rate them so you don't go too small. Your bikes like that 9k rpm, and the Next falls off at 7k.

Nope, the mj is oem as well..
This next pipe dont fall at 7k.. The rpms stay at 8k +..
I actually wanted to vid this today but i couldn't. For some reason at different points my rpms will continue to climb but the speed remains 51-53. I WOULD SWEAR THAT I WAS READING A GOOD 12K 2 SEPERATE TIMES AGAIN TODAY. ON LEVEL GROUND...
Dam, i have a rs-2 pipe...

Oh yeah, i have some sort of gremlin in the mix now as well..... electrical gremlin....

[Peters]

Purple Nurple!

Great thread. I have absolutely no expert opinions or advice on the subject but I love to read you guys-es.

[wordslinger]

...nina powers at @ 8500..."same" pipe as haze...


..i tried same thing and could NEVER tune nina to the pipe without open air filter...


..i dunno how J does it...

[thebatman]

Purple Nurple!

Great thread. I have absolutely no expert opinions or advice on the subject but I love to read you guys-es.

Hey Peters,
It's all good.. I'm glad you check out any of my threads.  
We shoot the breeze a lot around here...




to the pipe without open air filter...

I need one but i gotta have jets. 

[zombie]

I thought you had a Next pipe. The RS II is rated at 8500. That doesn't mean no more revs... It means no more power from the pipe. The pipe makes the Most power at 8500.
The only other ways you could be running so rich are clogged air box, bad float level, or a clogged pipe/silencer.
Maybe try it one time w/o the silencer. Or cut a few holes in the Air box. You can always seal the holes. Maybe one 1" hole at a time so as Not to pass up the jets you have.

[thebatman]

I thought you had a Next pipe. The RS II is rated at 8500.



I need one but i gotta have jets.

I was meaning i need to install the open air filter.
She dies off with it on an no jetting

I do have the next-r... that black and purple exhaust in the pics...
I have a RS-2 that was from my black S9