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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2012, 02:37:07 AM »
I would go for the 19 Delorto. It is fine for now, and great later. I bought mine with a manual choke, and cable kit. It eliminates all the hassle of guessing if the "auto" part is working. Are you in the US Wass? I can work it out to get the carb to you at cost thru Racing Planet. Post up a link to the one you want, and I'll pm you the price. Pay me when you get it deal.
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2012, 08:19:54 AM »
Right now, I am looking to having the least amount of money outflow with boosting what I have. I do not fear a manual choke, nor do I fear adding a connection to the manifold, but those are extra costs. I do have a question, though, about reeds. Is it necessary to upgrade those with just a carb increase, or is that really more of a concern for increasing the whole with a bbk?
Like I wrote, I am still in the r&d phase of this, so all options are open. I do feel that after a carb, a multivar would be the next step, but that will have to wait until after the little wass is born, so future upgrading past a carb won't be more until around xmas-time:)
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2012, 06:10:28 AM »
Reed selection very much depends on the overall engine. Thin reeds give quicker throttle response, and thicker are meant for wot drag bikes. You can get a good set of carbon reeds in .o35" that will work great for about 50 bucks. They do not make a huge difference but are much safer for the engine than the stainless steel OEM reeds. I always buy sheet stock, and cut my own. I replace them about twice a year.
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2012, 09:12:47 PM »
As always I appreciate the knowledge!
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2012, 03:01:40 AM »
I haven't totally tossed out the idea of a 17.5, but have some questions on the 19 install. I am looking at the Dellorto PHBG
For manual choke: I am contemplating either a lever or the twist rather than cable and wonder if you or anyone has any thoughts either way. (RP has the twist and Treatland has the lever)
For carb's connection to the manifold: RacingPlanet indicates that both the TVT and Malossi kits will be needed for fitment. I am wondering if getting the Malossi kit from RP and the 'rubber mount' from Treatland will be effective. I am under the assumption that the Malossi has a gasket and fasteners and it will require more investigation on my part to discover if this is true or not.
Regarding the manifold: The vacuum nipple would become moot, as the carb has one. Would I need to plug the existant nipple or replace the manifold?
When all is said and done, what other means of attachment is there for this carb, or is it just affixed with the rubber mount? I can't quite tell if it attaches into the intake elsewise.
Links for some of what I have (poorly) tried to describe:
PHBG 19:http://www.racingplanetusa.com/carburetor-stage6-mkii-dellorto-phbg-19mm-p-1520-1.html?cPath=2_26378_26380&sessID=8daad231bd2b7945f800b06bc850e5ad
Malossi adaptor: http://www.racingplanetusa.com/carburetor-adapter-malossi-kymco-sf10-p-368-1.html?cPath=2_26378_26380&sessID=8daad231bd2b7945f800b06bc850e5ad
TVT adaptor: http://www.racingplanetusa.com/carburetor-mounting-dellorto-carburetor-plug-mounting-p-448-1.html?cPath=2_26378_26380&sessID=8daad231bd2b7945f800b06bc850e5ad
manual choke (non-cable): http://www.racingplanetusa.com/manual-choke-dellorto-phbg-carburetor-p-25333-1.html?cPath=2_26378_26380&sessID=8daad231bd2b7945f800b06bc850e5ad
lever choke: https://www.treatland.tv/dellorto-PHBG-fancy-lever-choke-p/dellorto-phbg-fancy-lever.htm
rubber mount: https://www.treatland.tv/super-heavy-duty-rubber-mount-p/replay-phbg-rubber-mount.htm
Lotsa questions while I am still in the r&d. Thanks for any help!
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2012, 03:13:51 AM »
As far as everything you have found it is all right. I never liked the lever style chokes because the tend to turn them selves "on" at the worst times. Make up a hit list... You have to remember the intake side as well. It will be significantly larger as well. There are lots of adapter pipes for that as well.
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2012, 01:16:42 AM »
I can't help but wonder if I shouldn't get a multivar first and then approach a new carb. I really think the 19 is where I will be going, even though a BBK is going to end up being 1-2 years off. If you were in my shoes, would that be a better first choice?
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2012, 01:24:15 AM »
CVT! Get a 1500 contra spring, and a Jasil variator. The reason I say Jasil is they don't come with a spring. The Malossi does but it is the white OEM version, and really does no good. Oem roller weight should work fine with a 1500 spring. A bit more revs, and = or better top end.
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2012, 07:07:57 AM »
I don't suppose you have an account with MHR, do you? (Unless you know of another Jasil supplier?)
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2012, 02:28:28 AM »
Too, Polini offers a vari w/out the spring. I am looking at clutch springs as well.
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2012, 01:51:54 PM »
Jasil sv1 kit has been ordered. Man, Steve is such a good guy! No discount, but so much knowledge!
Pics when it gets here.
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2012, 11:14:51 PM »
Good call. Did you get the springs too?
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2012, 11:57:34 PM »
I've already got a 1000 contra spring installed, but I did order some 1500 clutch springs. It should all hit Monday.
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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #73 on: June 27, 2012, 11:30:02 PM »
Does anyone know where to buy the stock red color of the 2012 like 50cc 2t  scooter ? Tried dealer today and it was as though I was speaking Chinese. I figured I would try this site as some of the posters seem very knowable.

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Re: Updates on what is working, tweaking, and questions
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2012, 12:57:54 AM »
Do you mean touch up paint?
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