Side stand spring routing

[The Rookie]

Thanks Steve we'll practice that with the daughter

Vivo you could be right....and yes, disgraceful state of the poor scoot.......

[Vivo]

While you're at it, maybe you can modify the side stand so as it won't be self-retracting?

Examine the picture of streido. Look at that plate at the top holding the spring.  It's angled in such a way that it pulls up the stand, right.  What if the hole for the spring is in line with the stand? The spring can't pull the stand back up not unless you give the stand a push, right? 

I think a mod would be safer for your daughter and the scoot than this self-retracting stand.

[streido]

Think i would leave it as retracting, wont matter if you change it or not cos theres no way it can retract if the s oots leaning on it. The side stand itself just feels weak to me and i def would never leave mine on it for any length of time unattended. A strong wind or somebody bumping against it will knock it over quite easy. I had mine outside on the mainstand with a tarp tied over it during 80-90mph winds last yr and it barely wobbled, on the side stand it wouldve been over.

There were nice looking chrome side stands on ebay last yr for under £20, i almost bought one, might look if theyre still there since mine is grubby now anyway.

[Vivo]

I would prefer stainless steel than chrome... rust

[mono]

I've fixed the self-retracting function (I consider it a design fault by safety zealots) of my side stand yesterday by simply sawing off the protruding pin at the end of the bolt that holds the stand.

I'ts really simple :
-remove the springs from the stand using a shoelace throuhg the end of the springs and wrapped around your hand.
-remove the bolt from the stand and put it in a vice by the smooth end.
-saw or grind through the bolt at the start of the smooth part, so you get a normal bolt with the thread at the end.
-try if it fits nicely through the stand without protruding too much, clean the start of the thread wit a file if necessary.
-apply some grease and put everything back, again using a strong shoelace or cord to put the springs into place.

Now the springs will travel all the way forward with the stand, beyond the point where their effect is reversed and they're keeping the stand forward, just like all sidestands used to work before our nannies took over this world...

Be aware that this modification could be unwise for extremely absent-minded people : you've traded the chance that somebody knocks your bike over by simply touching it for the chance that you forget to move the stand upwards before driving away, which will become very obvious in the first lefthand turn you make :-)

[The Rookie]

Mono,
I was looking at just that, and even if the stand hit the floor it would just spring back and up, I think I'll do that for her, I have a spare bolt anyway! Nice to have it confirmed, wonder if it was designed that way and modified to the current silly idea!

[Vivo]

Looking at streido's picture again, is the protruding part the one where the plate that holds the spring rests on? If this is cut, then the plate will travel with the spring and won't be in an angle to pull the stand upwards, right?

[mono]

That's correct...

[mono]

BTW, the centerstand can be made easier to use by shortening it a little. That way you don't have to put so much effort in lifting the bike so far from the ground, which is what's your precious energy is actually used for when putting it on the center stand.

One of my Agilities is a version with 10 inch rims. I fixed the looks and lack of comfort with larger tires than standard, which added half an inch to the overall hight, making the center stand half an inch shorter by comparison and the rear wheel a whole inch closer to the ground since the stand is halfway between the wheels. The rear weel almost touches the ground now when on the center stand, but it's very easy to get there compared to the original height...

[Vivo]

There you have it Rookie...