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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2012, 03:00:40 PM »
Racing planet has a nice selection.

http://www.racingplanetusa.com/index.php?shop_ID=1&sessID=0b7a6bfa6ae6650a1fc6b723da4d6e62&olevel0=2&olevel1=18&olevel2=&level0=2&level1=18&level2=110

I think zombie said you can mention the forum for a discount. I think... :D. I forget which ones he said to mention the forum. 90% sure  ;)

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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2012, 04:58:49 PM »
Yep, that was the NYC setup that I was referring to... It looks nice, but I have no idea of how loud it is, fitment, or build quality.

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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2012, 06:38:48 PM »
Ok, so I went with the Technigas Next R:
http://www.racingplanetusa.com/exhaust-tecnigas-nextr-kymco-horizontal-p-108-1.html?cPath=2_18_110&sessID=0b7a6bfa6ae6650a1fc6b723da4d6e62

I opted for this because the price was right, $158, and it was in stock in the US, so I can actually have it by next week.  I was going to spend more for the chrome versions and even for the RS2, but all were in Europe, and I am too impatient for now, I want to get to riding this thing before I run out of nice weather.  The exhaust from my wife's 2005 sounded like the core was rattling around when I was carrying the system over to my 2001, so I am guessing that I will be buying another exhaust for her in the coming months... I'll try the Next R on my BBK scooter for now, then move it to hers, and see how the RS2 does on mine later on.

So, I am guessing that my main jet is going to be much higher.... in the order of 100 or so.  I am guessing that it was stuttering so bad due to the fact that the muffler was so plugged.  I guess I could have left the whole bike stock, and it probably would have run fine with the 125psi of compression, had I known that the exhaust was prone to plugging.  Oh well, can always use more power :D

I called the local Kymco shop, and when I told him what I found, he was like, "Oh, you had the dreaded carboned up muffler, eh?", like it was a known thing amongst 2 stroke Kymco owners... how was it that this never came up in the 5 conversations I had with them.  I've owned Banshee's, YZ250's and a bunch of other 2 stroke bikes, and have never had a pipe carbon up.  I understand with the oil in the exhaust, how it could happen, but have never had it happen, or heard of friends that have had it happen.  I mean even on old Banshee's from 1989 with stock pipes still. 

Oh well, its these experiences that make us better techs... I still love the small wins like this, especially when they feel huge.

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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2012, 10:10:35 PM »
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I'll try the Next R on my BBK scooter for now, then move it to hers, and see how the RS2 does on mine later on.

Good idea

Yeah I've heard of pipes getting clogged. It's just hard to diagnose something over the internet, ya know. To be honest with the amount of miles you have on it I wouldn't have wanted to believe it either. Must have been running rich for a while. Just glad that you thought of it.   :)

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Oh well, its these experiences that make us better techs... I still love the small wins like this, especially when they feel huge.

Yep! And you'll love your new found acceleration and top end. You'll be passing cars instead of them passing you  :D

... So you've had some Banshees huh? I love those things ;D. I have two Blasters myself but they're just not the same. I had an old neighbor from California that had a Banshee that was built for race. All I had ever rode was a 300ex. Man!!! Let me tell you, that thing was scary fast. She kept tellin me "ride the tank, ride the tank". I forgot and hit 2nd gear. Wooo!  :o that damn front end came up so quick  :D :D :D. Anyway, that's my dream quad. I'd love to have one.
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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2012, 10:14:45 PM »
BTW since the pipe will have no coating, you can buy some high temp exhaust paint. Then it won't rust.
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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2012, 10:58:57 PM »
Good to know. I've painted headers. Ack in my hot rod days, so I'll get some header paint and paint it hit temp black. Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know that they came raw. Now I'll grab some paint before it arrives.

Love the banshees, they make short arms longer :)

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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2012, 11:51:27 PM »
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Love the banshees, they make short arms longer Smiley

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I think the one you got has no coating at all. I could be wrong  :-\. It might have a clear coat. The one I got is chromed. I'm to lazy to clean it though  :D
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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2012, 07:46:48 AM »
"They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn't want to be broken."   Bobby Sands...

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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2012, 03:04:23 PM »
If you want to keep your old exhaust as a spare, or to sell, i would suggest trying to de-carbon it. When I owned my Honda Spree, there were no aftemarket exhausts, so they suggested two different methods to decarbon.
Method#1 - Build an outdoor bonfire. Once you have plenty of hot coals, throw your exhaust in the fire and let the carbon burn from the inside out. Once the fire has burned out,  pull out your exhaust, wire brush, and paint with rustoleum high heat (grills etc.) black paint.

Method #2- Lye. Go to your local hardware store and get some  lye (for drain cleaning etc). Mix up in a 5 gallon bucket with water. Put your exhaust in the lye mixture and let it set for a few hours, draining and filling the inside a handful of times. Then take a fresh water hose and put it up to the exhaust inlet, to "flush" the lye mixture and carbbon out.

Method #2 was the least drastic to me, so I tried it. I got 2 more years out of my exhaust, and sold the Spree with it that way. It is still running 2 years after the sale. They guys on the Honda Spree forum think that the bonfire works best.

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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2012, 09:15:42 PM »
This is the only way I have ever had perfect results. Watch the ring of berning carbon as it travels out of the pipe.
The idea is to heat until cherry red, and run pure O2 thru the pipe. The O2 keeps the carbon/oil burning till their is none left.
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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2012, 12:08:17 AM »
That looks like a Yamaha Blaster pipe  ;D

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I was just thinkin the other day, I should cut open my stock exhaust and see exactly what makes the newer pipes so restrictive. I'm not doing anything with it anyway. I doubt anybody wants to buy those newer exhausts. There's hardly any carbon build up in it. Only had it on for a few months.
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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2012, 01:35:29 AM »
..oem hassa catalytic converter and a baffle...


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Re: 2001 People 50 Restore, with BBK Install (50 2T)
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2012, 02:01:59 AM »
..oem hassa catalytic converter and a baffle...


..been in there...

I think mine is different though. Remember, one of my first post in the forum. Mine has the tube coming off the bottom that goes nowhere. Let me see if I can dig up the pics.
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