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...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« on: July 26, 2012, 02:33:09 AM »
..yeah, i hit upon some big trouble last evening...

..left work, and rode maybe 5 city miles..heard the awefullest noise at a stoplight...

..scoot running fine, just noisy as fuk!!!..kinda vibrating with revs...
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2012, 02:36:23 AM »
...the damaged / repaired water pump shaft and generator nut didn't hold up..


                                         :-\

....probably shoulda put a little grease in there from time to time...


                                          ;)
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2012, 02:38:24 AM »
..especially running regularly around 10,000 rpms....


..water is pretty hard....
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2012, 02:41:43 AM »
>>..hey, how 'bout this....post some troubles you had, and what you learned from them...<<
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2012, 03:58:27 AM »
How about bypassing the mechanical pump, and going electric. It think that is MUCH more reliable, and less drain on the engine.
As far as posting failures... I let you know if I ever have one.    NOT! I'd be here for days typing.
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2012, 04:02:05 AM »
Can you get access to assemble it, and drive a roll pin thru both pieces? Maybe two pins at 90* spacing? I'm thinking just a 3/8" hole in the cover to drill, and drive in a 1/4" pin or two
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2012, 07:24:28 AM »
>>..hey, how 'bout this....post some troubles you had, and what you learned from them...<<


Scoot was new.. battery discharged... tried kick start a zillion times.... wont start.... posted problem in forum.... zombie replied.... ah, ok... I learned that my CDI is DC fired and will never start without a good battery... good learning....   

I immediately required all our retail stores (22 of them in the metropolis) to carry motorcycle batteries (we sell car accessories)  ::) ::) ::)  Lol! now, i can get a new battery anywhere if I need one. Self serving? Naaah!! ;D

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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2012, 01:28:25 PM »
Yeah well there was this one time at band camp that I took a rake, and a 5lb can of Crisco and....
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2012, 02:54:18 PM »
Can you get access to assemble it, and drive a roll pin thru both pieces

..no, the hex shaft fits into the flywheel nut, which is hex, like a allen head screw...

..the nut is recessed...no access...

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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2012, 09:02:57 PM »
If you wanted to repair it cheap, drill a hole in the pump shaft end perpendicular to the shaft, insert a cold roll pin, then cut a slot on the flywheel nut for the cold roll pin to fit in.  This will not be a very long lasting or reliable repair, but will get you out of a pinch if you need to.  Of course, the right way is to get the new parts but those are some parts that Kymco is kinda proud of.  Is it something you could make at work?

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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2012, 09:11:02 PM »
..yup, that roll pin / slot would get along for a little while..


..I could come up with something, if i had the friking time!!!


..that's my problem, i'm still at the plant now...

..sshh...don't tell them i'm on the forum....
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2012, 09:59:56 AM »
If you wanted to repair it cheap, drill a hole in the pump shaft end perpendicular to the shaft, insert a cold roll pin, then cut a slot on the flywheel nut for the cold roll pin to fit in.  This will not be a very long lasting or reliable repair, but will get you out of a pinch if you need to.  Of course, the right way is to get the new parts but those are some parts that Kymco is kinda proud of.  Is it something you could make at work?

That's what I said... I understood it!

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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2012, 10:35:22 AM »
and drive a roll pin thru both pieces

then cut a slot on the flywheel nut for the cold roll pin to fit in


..two completely different concepts...
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2012, 03:14:12 AM »
Only to you... I dont know what you would do with a slot when the best way is in a hole but who am I to say what you may prefer. Id make it a hole
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Re: ...trouble...ohhh trouble, trouble, trouble...
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2012, 10:49:33 AM »
..actually, i prefer slots with holes...

             ;)

...in this case, there is no way to drive a pin thru a hole in the nut, sssso...

..slotting the nut, and inserting the shaft with a pin already installed seems to me to be the oly way that it COULD work....
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