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caesar170988

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No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« on: August 14, 2012, 03:38:00 PM »
got an a 50 a couple of months ago , crashed it into the side of a station wagon ( totaled the car ) and now i got it up and running . wanted to derestrict it ( great guide streido )
Got a new variator with a smooth boss ( made in taiwan , 10$ ) but the one that was in the scooter was allready smooth .
wanted to cut the cdi
after long hours with a file lost patience and got a power sander . went 1/4 way through and no wire . struck gold ( or plastic and copper ) and gave up when i hit some parts . cdi is still restricted but works .
what do i do next ?
wanted to attach some pics but cant ( newbie )

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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 04:03:12 PM »
Did you sand down the correct part/end?

To post pics you need to upload them to another site and use the link to that here ( i use photobucket but any free photo histing site will work, or even F.Book).

If you can post some pics we can see if we can help. Some folk say the newer A50's have no restriction on the cdi but another member with a 2012 Agility verified his had the wire which raised the revs once he cut it.

Maybe you already did cut it but just didnt see it? It is very thin and its easy to miss it?
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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 04:50:03 PM »
..cut on this end?? (first pic)

..wire looks like this..(second pic)
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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 10:27:38 PM »
My 2012 did have the wire restriction... I used the cutter attachment with a dremmel tool.
I cut it about halfway down and saw the wire cut and my rpms did increase and my speed.
I kept thinking I was cutting too deep but finally got it.
A small saw would work good too.

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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 10:55:09 PM »
My 2012 did have the wire restriction... I used the cutter attachment with a dremmel tool.
I cut it about halfway down and saw the wire cut and my rpms did increase and my speed.
I kept thinking I was cutting too deep but finally got it.
A small saw would work good too.

Good luck welcome aboard!!!!

There we go then, confirmed again. Thanks Acrab  :)
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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 02:10:27 AM »
Glad to help! I've gotten my share here too!!!   :P

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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2012, 08:36:42 AM »


when i got it , it went 62 km/h max and after the variator it goes 65 km/h or 75 km/h if i roll it down a hill first ( down hill it goes 80+ but i guess it messes up the restrictions )
as i said , the boss was allready smooth and i found no wire in the cdi . i got a repair set for the 80cc carb and am gonna put the jets in mine .
thinking of getting a jcosta variator ( 85 euros ) or a malossi ( 65 euro ) with dr pulley sliders ( 20 euro ) , a new kevlar belt and some clutch springs .
should i buy a race cdi ? tried a chinesse one ( 8 euros )  and it blew the fuses . is this cdi AC or DC and what is the difference ?

thank you all so much for the help !

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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2012, 10:02:39 AM »
Its a d.c cdi you need. Looks like maybe you filed it at too shallow an angle?

The cut you made with a saw is not deep enough. I did mine where you did but couldnt find it then did find the wire more to the r/h side of the pics you posted.

Mine goes between 42mph-45/46mph on flats on good days but if its wet or damp it can drop to 40mph.

The cdi cut normally adds around 2-3mph to top speed but it increases the max rpm allowed to 9000rpm from 7000-7500rpm on the uncut cdi.
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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2012, 01:36:20 PM »
2nd that.... Must cut deeper.

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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2012, 02:40:36 PM »
..wire should be in this vicinity...
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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2012, 03:59:27 PM »
..wire should be in this vicinity...

+1 yup.
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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 11:00:13 PM »
Its a d.c cdi you need. Looks like maybe you filed it at too shallow an angle?

The cut you made with a saw is not deep enough. I did mine where you did but couldnt find it then did find the wire more to the r/h side of the pics you posted.

Mine goes between 42mph-45/46mph on flats on good days but if its wet or damp it can drop to 40mph.

The cdi cut normally adds around 2-3mph to top speed but it increases the max rpm allowed to 9000rpm from 7000-7500rpm on the uncut cdi.
u cant see from this pic but i cut 1/4 off the cdi until i found electronic parts in it . also , why is the plug white? maybe its a unrestricted cdi ... i got the scooter second hand ...
if mine goes 44 mph like this what is the point in cutting it and/or spending money on a jcosta ?

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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2012, 11:24:08 PM »
if mine goes 44 mph like this what is the point in cutting it and/or spending money on a jcosta

yeah, if you're happy with it leave it alone!!...

                              ;D

..i don't thats an oem cdi...does it have "kymco" on it anywhere?

..or a "KEB**" number??

...and the malossi is better...

                  ;)
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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 10:05:40 PM »
it had a big serial number on the case but it broke off from all the power grinding . it seems strange that the plug is white instead of green .
bought a chinese one for 10 euro today and got 5 km/h more ... also got a chinese belt 729 17.5 30 for 8 euro and some 5g rollers .
gonna install those tomorow and gonna sharpie the variator and the clutch + gonna shorten the boss to 37 mm
lets keep our fingers crossed .

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Re: No wire to cut in the CDI ... HELP !
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 10:13:15 PM »
..all sounds good caesar...

...just keep a watch on that belt..it probably really measures @ 17mm...

..and that is getting kinda narrow..

..they might last a little longer on a 4t, but my super9 trashes those in about 2 months...lol...


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