Funny you should say that Sonic. At another dealer we were shopping Scooters at, they were trying to charge an outrageous set up fee. I wanted to test the waters and see what the sales guy would say if I told him that I didn't want to pay the setup fee. He didn't even object. Not even a little bit. He said sure, no problem. Never bought it from that dealer, but it goes to show you that the setup fee is not carved in stone.