125i same speed as 200i?

[MotoRandy123]

I found some info on a french website that shows the Dink125i vs Dink200i;

125 -  145kg  -  8.7 kw    -  10.9 nm  -  108 km/h
200 -  148kg  -  11.4 kw  -  15.1 nm  -  109 km/h

Downtown 125

125 -  167kg  -  11.0 kw  -  12.6 nm  -  110 k/h

Looks funny to me. The scoot must be speed limited somehow?

[Cortez]

Nope.

Forget about displacement, that's not indicative of how fast something should go
(especially in this case where the 200 is actually NOT a 200).

Look at the power figures.

There's a lot more to it then the top speed too.

[MotoRandy123]

Well if you look at the downtown info above it's a lot heavier and virtually the same power
but is claimed to go a hint faster. The Dink's are fairly close in weight and go the same speed.

These are design spec's so I understand in real life the speeds might vary. I'm thinking the
transmission is the same on them and limits max speed so a regear or bigger rear tire might
 give you a higher top end.

The reason I bought the 200I over the 125I is I assumed the top speed would be a little higher
 for those occasional short highway jaunts. I should have saved my money and gotten the little
one, better gas mileage too!

[Cortez]

Well if you look at the downtown info above it's a lot heavier and virtually the same power
but is claimed to go a hint faster. The Dink's are fairly close in weight and go the same speed.

These are design spec's so I understand in real life the speeds might vary. I'm thinking the
transmission is the same on them and limits max speed so a regear or bigger rear tire might
 give you a higher top end.

The reason I bought the 200I over the 125I is I assumed the top speed would be a little higher
 for those occasional short highway jaunts. I should have saved my money and gotten the little
one, better gas mileage too!

Um, nah, with the 125 you'd be spinning the engine more and near the top speed probably consume
more fuel. The 200 is a better engine without a doubt.

One other thing.
The weight has little to no effect on the top speed.

[MotoRandy123]

Hmm Well if the displacement doesn't affect top speed and the weight doesn't affect top speed,
what does? I can understand power to weight ratio but not sure what you mean?

[Cortez]

Hmm Well if the displacement doesn't affect top speed and the weight doesn't affect top speed,
what does? I can understand power to weight ratio but not sure what you mean?

There's 200cc bikes with power ratings from 8-9hp to over 22hp, right?
They're all 200cc, first bunch won't go over 65mph, the 20hp+ bikes will go 80mph+.

Weight affects acceleration.
Top speed is about power vs air resistance vs rolling resistance and gearing.

[MotoRandy123]

So my guess is that being that these two share a body and general construction the gearing is
limiting the 200I. I just wondered if anyone knew that for a fact...

[big blue]

Hi Moto, On level ground the 125 and 200(163) will do close to the same speed due to final drive ratio. However the higher torque of the bigger bore engine will climb hills easier. My Like 200i will zip up even the most inclined roads with ease.

[Cortez]

That's the main thing.

IF the gearing is the same (I have no idea if it is, but it would make sense in a budget model) the
200 will perform A LOT better at any speeds when you press the loud pedal.

I wouldn't worry about spending more on the 163cc model since it's more then likely to outlast
the 125, and consume less fuel at steady cruising speeds.

IF anyone can confirm that the 125 and 200 share the same gearing/CVT setup, it's very likely
that a simple roller swap (going to Dr Pulley sliders) would make the 200 fly.

However, I've ridden the 200.. and it's best suited for cruising at 50-55mph, and wasn't able
to reach the manufacturer stated 108km/h with it (it topped out around 105km/h for me, but
owner of the bike says it will do up to 115km/h on flat ground/no wind).

The 125 probably can't do that.
My Agility 125 would top out at 110km/h (9hp) but the speedo is very inaccurate.

[MotoRandy123]

So it looks like the bigger motors just give you torque. I wondered why the 250's and 300's go
to 80MPH. I expected each to go a little faster. So I guess the best we can do it throw in some
Dr Pully sliders and go out and ride!

I'm not sure I'd even like going faster on such a little bike anyway. The wind can blow you into
the weeds quickly!

[Cortez]

Hmm.. I see a different variator on the Downtown..

[MotoRandy123]

I'm thinking rear wheel size might make a difference. The Yager has a tiny little 12" wheel.
I wonder if you could swap in a larger one?

[ludo]

Hmm......Yager/Dink200i - Top speed 109km/h (68mph)?
I ride mine daily above that speed.
Top speed (GPS verified) I got was 75mph (120km/h).

[Vivo]

The bigger engine will have a better acceleration and reach top speed ahead than a smaller engine.  So, that means that if both bikes are running at top speed, the bigger engined bike will be already ahead of the small one and the latter cannot anymore catch up with the big one....whew...

[MotoRandy123]

  I found the top speed spec in the owners manual for the Dink 125/200 on a french
site. I believe the data is straight from Kymco. But sure why it is not in the US manual?
Maybe the US models are different somehow?

  I never tried maxing my Yager out as I only just got it and only drove it home from
the dealer.
  
  I was just wondering if there was a "restriction" that could be modified to get a little bit
more though I'm not sure I would us it. I imagine being able to hop on the highway and
going 65 MPH for 2-3 exits and hop off. I guess I'll have to break it in and try it!