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ScooterBJ

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High Flow Air Filter Rework - Updated
« on: January 19, 2013, 11:17:21 PM »
UPDATE, the Xciting runs about 500 rpm lower at 50mph and accelerates better.
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I took some time this afternoon t rework the stock air filter into a UNI hi flow foam. The images should help.
1. Cut out the old paper element, removed the restrictive screen and trimmed out the edges.
2. Cleaned it all up with a dremel, then with naphtha (alcohol would work too).
3. Cut the piece of UNI foam about 1/4 inch larger then the hole. It should be a slightly snug fit.
(I used UNI universal foam I ordered from Amazon. Cost was about $13 and the sheet of foam is enough to do this 4-5 times at least.)
4. Cut a piece of metal screen about 1/4 inch wider on all 4 sides. Bend up the 1/4 inch on all 4 sides and insert into opening. Bend to sides to fit snug.
5. Glue in the screen. I used a oil resistance silicone caulk.
6. Add caulk to edges of foam and insert against the screen.
7. Add small amount of of caulk around the edges of the foam to seal. Let dry 24 hours.
8. Lightly oil the foam with filter oil. Spray works best.
9. Reinstall on scooter.

i have used this method on many scooters and motorcycles. The X500 air filter element is tiny and good air flow is limited. i checked and the X500 element has about half the air flow surface area as my stock Burgman 400 air filter element. The foam will allow a lot more air in, and allow it in faster. Also, the stock screen on the bottom of the filter element is about 20-30% restrictive. The screen i used to replace is about 5% restrictive. The screen is from an old fireplace grill but I have used aluminum screen door screen in the past. The caulk is white in the photo but wil be clear when dry.  Next, i will find a good place to add a couple 1/2 holes to the airbox to allow the filter to pull air in faster.









« Last Edit: January 22, 2013, 02:41:30 PM by ScooterBJ »

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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 01:17:06 PM »
Looks good. I found a bit of resistance in my air intake on my Yager. I put a larger hose
going into the airbox and got rid of the 90 degree snubber inside. Now it revs smoothly
with no hesitation.

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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 03:23:04 PM »
I too would be interested in a set-up like this.  Did a similar thing on my old Vino 125,  but  had to do a rejet
for both new exhaust and filter.   Is any further tuning recommended for air filter modification only?

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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 04:12:43 PM »
Looks good. I found a bit of resistance in my air intake on my Yager. I put a larger hose
going into the airbox and got rid of the 90 degree snubber inside. Now it revs smoothly
with no hesitation.

Nice setup on the Yager. I did similar on the TGB Delivery 150 I had a couple years back. It needed a rejet to the carb too. Ran a lot better too.

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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 04:32:54 PM »
I tweaked the air temp sensor so the bike thinks it's 10 degrees colder. The Yager is fuel injected
so tricky to change the mixture otherwise. I would suggest a rejet too if your getting significantly
more air in.
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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 04:48:52 PM »
I tweaked the air temp sensor so the bike thinks it's 10 degrees colder. The Yager is fuel injected
so tricky to change the mixture otherwise. I would suggest a rejet too if your getting significantly
more air in.
If I were not at considerable elevation I am sure some fuel injection tweaking would be needed, but I live at ~5300ft and ride at 12K+. So here a standard intake system is struggling to get enough air volume as the density is so much less.

How did you trick your fuel injection to be richer?

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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 05:11:37 PM »
Well there is a NTC (negative temperature compensation) resistor which approximates the
bikes original temperature sensor's response that you place inline with the original sensor.
This doubles the resistance at all temperatures so changes the temp the bike sees. I actually
 paralleled  two of them so it only sees 1/4 again as much. If I need more fuel I'll change over
to just one. Here's an article that talks about a similar mod. A fixed resistor works OK at one
temp but the NTC is better across the whole range.

 The fixed resistor is the basis for all those eBay ads that purport to increase mileage and power...

http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-5-Cent-Modification/A_112726/article.html
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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 09:11:59 PM »
Well there is a NTC (negative temperature compensation) resistor which approximates the
bikes original temperature sensor's response that you place inline with the original sensor.
This doubles the resistance at all temperatures so changes the temp the bike sees. I actually
 paralleled  two of them so it only sees 1/4 again as much. If I need more fuel I'll change over
to just one. Here's an article that talks about a similar mod. A fixed resistor works OK at one
temp but the NTC is better across the whole range.

 The fixed resistor is the basis for all those eBay ads that purport to increase mileage and power...

http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-5-Cent-Modification/A_112726/article.html
Interesting. On the Silver Wing i had a few years ago, i had installed a Fi adjuster that used 3 potentiometers to allow adding fuel at low, mid top and idle. I had a very free flow exhaust and intake on it. This worked well when i lived in florida (and the scooter would do 110mph) but it ran too rich here in Colorado and I had to set it at 0 and go back to the stock exhaust. On my V-Strom 100 i plugged in a TEKA tuner box and reset the FI through the entire range. The bikes was super smooth, ran better and got better mpg. i am interesting in the NTC as I would like to go to a lighter, freer flow exhaust eventually. Anywhere you can point me for more specific info? Thanks.

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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 10:07:48 PM »
Well this is what I bought;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-EPCOS-Precision-NTC-Thermistor-Fast-Response-w-BONUS-TINY-Fit-anywhere-/230720029512?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b7fc4348

You have to splice it inline with your current temp sensor. It is similar to the device they call
the BoosterPlug for BMW's. Here's the one on my bike;

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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 12:39:08 AM »
Well this is what I bought;...........

Thanks, that's helpful. I went ahead and ordered them. For $6 they can hang around until needed.

I reinstalled the reworked filter this afternoon. It does run better with a bit more acceleration. I am sure the snorkel / inlet is holding it back further but I have to remove the rear body panels to get to the inlet area of the airbox. Then I will be able to rework it for more inlet capability.
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Re: High Flow Air Filter Rework - Updated
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2013, 09:19:24 PM »
S BJ. Can we get an update with pic's?  :-*

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