Malossi variator

[sissy mary]

Anyone using the Malossi variator on their X500? Is there much of a performance gain? My main concern is how does it effect gas mileage? And does it lowwer RPM's at freeway speeds?

[kiki]

Hi  from spain.

I Had a Malossi instalen on my xc 500i .

With the original variator it spent 5 litters. With Malossi 6 or  more.

I noted that the revolutions were higuer, all  time 6000 or more.

The other difference it is that from 0 to 100 it is much faster.

On highway, it was the same.

[sissy mary]

Thanks, I guess I will stay with stock, I was going to stay stock anyway, but I thought if I was going to change every part, that I might want to look at the Malossi. The higher revs at take off is why it takes off fast from the start (0 to 60 MPH that is). But if it takes more fuel, then who needs to get from 0 to 60 abot 1/2 a second faster? I feel mine is pretty quick as it is. Good enough for me. And if it does not get better high way mileage, or lowwer RPM's in that range, then forget it.

[kiki]

What I left installed it is the Malossi contrast spring on the clutch. Doing this, the motorcycle runs at some less revolutions on highway. I think this is what you wanted to get.

Here it is possible to get this spring for more or less 25 Euros, not included installation.

[houndguy]

What I left installed it is the Malossi contrast spring on the clutch. Doing this, the motorcycle runs at some less revolutions on highway. I think this is what you wanted to get.

Here it is possible to get this spring for more or less 25 Euros, not included installation.

Interesting.  Did you replace the rollers/sliders as well?  I was considering that because I know it did increase mileage by 10 miles per gallon (3.54 Kpl) on the Burgman I used to ride.   

[sissy mary]

Houndguy, did you go up in weight on the rollers to lowwer RPM's at hi-way speeds? And then by doing so increased gas mileage? And kiki, is the Malossi spring more stiff-firm than the stock Kymco spring?

[kiki]

It is more soft, so more long.

[sissy mary]

I did some research on the Malossi variator and spring. It says the spring is more firm/stiff. This heavy-er spring put's more pressure-force to push the clutch pulley half, and keeps the RPM's higher and keeps it there for a faster take off speed. I have heard the RPM's are lowwer at highway speeds from some people, and that the RPM's are higher at these speeds from other people? I'm staying with stock, putting in a K&N style air filter, and going up 2 sizes on the main jet. It pop's now on de-exceleration with the Leo Vince muffler installed, meaning it's running lean. This should ad some pep to the old beast. And a valve adjustment will help also as it has been well over 30,000 miles since it had one!!!! I wish I could go up one gram in roller weights to lowwer RPM's at highway speeds, But the only 28x22 size rollers I can find are the stock ones from Kymco.

[kiki]

Just note one thing:

The drive plate and the clutch plate has a determined dimension, whatever it be.

When the first is closed, the belt runs at the high part of it.  When the second one it is open, the belt runs at the small part of it.

¿When it is closed and the other opened? when you ride fast. There is no more diameter for the drive plate, and there is no less diameter for the cluth plate.

At this point, if you want to get the engine with less revolutions, you should need to get a bigger drive plate (with more diameter), because the diameter of the other part can not be minor.

You can't get less revolutions at a determined ponit.

The Malossi variator I noted that everytime the motor went more revolutionated. Always, except when you pass from 85 miles/h, where occurs what I told you before, the max and the min diameters. From this point, whatever increasing of speed is caused exclusively by the increasing of rpm of the engine. This is valid for all variators.

[houndguy]

Houndguy, did you go up in weight on the rollers to lowwer RPM's at hi-way speeds? And then by doing so increased gas mileage? And kiki, is the Malossi spring more stiff-firm than the stock Kymco spring?

Sorry.     I just saw this post.  To answer your question I increased the weights by 3g to 21g.  This lowered my hi-way RPM's but created a lot of vibration in stop and go traffic.

My daily commute is 35 miles (56.3 KM) one way at mostly highly speeds anyway - roughly 120 KMH.  So this worked out nicely for me.

[MotoRandy123]

If you cannot find heavier rollers you can fill the stock ones with 2 part epoxy. This
adds 0.6 - 0.7 gms to them;

[sissy mary]

I don't understand? The stock weights are 30 gram. Do you have an X500 or some other bike?